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Your statement "If govt does not have teeth who else on earth has?" is of course a valid statement; but one which has no answers. I have already posted the regulations above. "Stringent mail" or whatever has zero meaning when the sender has no teeth. Accept it, its true. The Director's statement is quite correct, given the current regulations.

I must say your trust in the ugly institution called government is indomitable. Now maybe that is something worth saluting. Where do you think mails sent to ddgpg-dot@nic.in are going? Is there any difference in posting your complaint on their site or emailing them? Also, just see the email id... does it suggest something??? TRAI as we all know does not deal with individual cases. Nor are they empowered to do so. This I am sure everyone knows here, so I won't even post proof. All these are just paper tigers. How exactly do you expect them to send this "specific stringent communication" when they simply do not have any teeth? Do you still seriously think they even read the complaints before forwarding? If yes then one more to you.

Dude, sorry to say but I'm afraid so much of your idealism is li'l misdirected. Much as I hate AirHELL, I'm forced to say that the credit should go to them only, lol! Further, I had even called the Directer General's office once and was told the same thing - that all they can do is forward it to the appropriate authority in the telco. They cannot help beyond that. He further advised me to change over to PSU telcos - MTNL/BSNL, to avoid getting into problems with private telcos, So in short, all they are doing is functioning like a post office or a router. Since you may not believe me, I fished this out from their site - Seems like your salutes should go to AirHELL. Indian Govt. doesn't function too well, I'm afraid.

Sorry this is slightly Off topic but nevertheless a very good read - I’m sure you’ve read this before but its worth reading again! ONE OF THE BEST STORIES I'VE EVER HEARD!!!!!! As she stood in front of her 5th grade class on the very first day of school, she told the children an untruth. Like most teachers, she looked at her students and said that she loved them all the same. However, that was impossible, because there in the front row, slumped in his seat, was a little boy named Teddy Stoddard. Mrs. Thompson had watched Teddy the year before and noticed that he did not play well with the other children, that his clothes were messy and that he constantly needed a bath. In addition, Teddy could be unpleasant. It got to the point where Mrs. Thompson would actually take delight in marking his papers with a broad red pen, making bold X's and then putting a big "F" at the top of his papers. At the school where Mrs. Thompson taught, she was required to review each child's past records and she put Teddy's off until last. However, when she reviewed his file, she was in for a surprise. Teddy's first grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is a bright child with a ready laugh. He does his work neatly and has good manners... he is a joy to be around.." His second grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is an excellent student, well liked by his classmates, but he is troubled because his mother has a terminal illness and life at home must be a struggle." His third grade teacher wrote, "His mother's death has been hard on him. He tries to do his best, but his father doesn't show much interest, and his home life will soon affect him if some steps aren't taken." Teddy's fourth grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is withdrawn and doesn't show much interest in school. He doesn't have many friends and he sometimes sleeps in class." By now, Mrs. Thompson realized the problem and she was ashamed of herself. She felt even worse when her students brought her Christmas presents, wrapped in beautiful ribbons and bright paper, except for Teddy's. His present was clumsily wrapped in the heavy, brown paper that he got from a grocery bag. Mrs. Thompson took pains to open it in the middle of the other presents. Some of the children started to laugh when she found a rhinestone bracelet with some of the stones missing, and a bottle that was one-quarter full of perfume. But she stifled the children's laughter when she exclaimed how pretty the bracelet was, putting it on, and dabbing some of the perfume on her wrist. Teddy Stoddard stayed after school that day just long enough to say, "Mrs. Thompson, today you smelled just like my Mom used to." After the children left, she cried for at least an hour. On that very day, she quit teaching reading, writing and arithmetic. Instead, she began to teach children. Mrs. Thompson paid particular attention to Teddy. As she worked with him, his mind seemed to come alive. The more she encouraged him, the faster he responded. By the end of the year, Teddy had become one of the smartest children in the class and, despite her lie that she would love all the children the same, Teddy became one of her "teacher's pets.." A year later, she found a note under her door, from Teddy, telling her that she was the best teacher he ever had in his whole life. Six years went by before she got another note from Teddy. He then wrote that he had finished high school, third in his class, and she was still the best teacher he ever had in life. Four years after that, she got another letter, saying that while things had been tough at times, he'd stayed in school, had stuck with it, and would soon graduate from college with the highest of honors. He assured Mrs. Thompson that she was still the best and favorite teacher he had ever had in his whole life. Then four more years passed and yet another letter came. This time he explained that after he got his bachelor's degree, he decided to go a little further. The letter explained that she was still the best and favorite teacher he ever had. But now his name was a little longer.... The letter was signed, Theodore F. Stoddard, MD. The story does not end there. You see, there was yet another letter that spring. Teddy said he had met this girl and was going to be married. He explained that his father had died a couple of years ago and he was wondering if Mrs. Thompson might agree to sit at the wedding in the place that was usually reserved for the mother of the groom. Of course, Mrs. Thompson did. And guess what? She wore that bracelet, the one with several rhinestones missing. Moreover, she made sure she was wearing the perfume that Teddy remembered his mother wearing on their last Christmas together. They hugged ea ch other, and Dr. Stoddard whispered in Mrs. Thompson's ear, "Thank you Mrs. Thompson for believing in me. Thank you so much for making me feel important and showing me that I could make a difference." Mrs. Thompson, with tears in her eyes, whispered back. She said, "Teddy, you have it all wrong. You were the one who taught me that I could make a difference. I didn't know how to teach until I met you." (For you that don't know, Teddy Stoddard is the Dr. at Iowa Methodist in Des Moines that has the Stoddard Cancer Wing.) Warm someone's heart today. . . pass this along. I love this story so very much, I cry every time I read it. Just try to make a difference in someone's life today? tomorrow? just "do it". Random acts of kindness, I think they call it! "Believe in Angels, then return the favor" Mods/Admins: I thought of posting this story in General Chat - 'Non SMS Stuff' topic, but then I thought why not here. If it is inappropriate here, please move it to where it should belong.

Interesting... Now let us start a poll... In which way, RCom will m0lest this plan FIRST (all may happen, but which is first is question)??? 1. Increase STV cost from Rs17 to Rs71... 2. First Local RGSM, RCDMA, HELLO, PCO, 3G of a day --- each one @ regular charges... 3. Decrease the validity from 30 days to 2 days... 4. Removing the RCdma and HELLO from this benefit... 5. Completely change the tariff from 10p/min to 10p/sec... (In RGsm anything is possible) Well... Anyone forgot the dramas happened in 20p onnet STV??? For 10p onnet STV, logically they will har@ss twice, imho...

Videocon Mobile is offering ten minutes of free calls for one year on the purchase of some of its handsets, but does this really help you save money? The much publicised Zero Paisa plan from Videocon Mobile Services has been able to garner a lot of eyeballs, but as they say, nothing comes free, and this offer is no exception. If you buy a Videocon mobile handset from among the seven models that are part of this scheme you get to make 10 to 30 minutes of free local calls to any network, every day for one year. The amount of money you save, though, depends on which handset you buy, and at what price. Here is a list of phones that offer the Zero Paisa scheme. We also tell you the amount you save and whether the deal makes sense. Videocon V202 Videocon V202 is a very basic handset with FM radio and torch, and is priced reasonably at about Rs 1,500. You get 10 minutes of local calls free everyday for 6 months. You save about Rs 180 per month or Rs 1,080 over six months, assuming that you utilise the free talk time every day because left over talk time doesn't get carried over to the next day. The phone can be bought at a discount of Rs 200-Rs 300 without the offer, so buying it at MRP with the Zero Paisa scheme is certainly better. Videocon V1292 Videocon V1292 is slightly better equipped than V202. It has an MP3 player with 20 mm speakers, FM radio on loudspeaker with FM recording, dual SIM support, and an LED torch. But its MRP is more than Rs 1,900 and the difference between MRP and market price is in excess of Rs 500. Yet, the offer is worth considering. Videocon V1404 With a Videocon V1404 phone, the offer period is extended to 1 year. V1404 is a dual GSM SIM handset with a 4.5 cm (or 1.8 inch) display, VGA camera with video recording, an MP3 player, expandable memory up to 2 GB, FM radio with recording, and an LED torch. With savings in excess of Rs 2,000 (10 minutes per day for 365 days,) this handset is a better deal compared even to V202, as savings are even greater than the phone's MRP, which is about Rs 2,000. Videocon V1428 Videocon V1428 is also a dual GSM SIM handset with a slightly bigger, 2 inch screen, than that of V1404. You also get Bluetooth connectivity and memory expandable to 4 GB. In other respects the phone is similar to V1404. At an MRP of about Rs 2,700 and the same savings as with V414, it is a good bet even though it costs Rs 700 after you deduct savings. Videocon V1676 Videocon V1676 is another handset that offers 10 minutes worth of free local calls every day for 1 year. V1676 is a Qwerty device with a 2.4 inch screen, 2 mega pixel camera, EDGE and GPRS connectivity, and pre-loaded Nimbuzz and Opera mini browser, as well as a memory that can hold 1,000 phonebook entries or SMS messages. With an MRP of more than Rs 4,300 this device is not exactly cheap. At this price you can buy phones with similar specifications from established brands such as Samsung and Motorola. Indian brands Micromax and Lemon sell the same set of features at Rs 1,000 less. However, since the savings are Rs 2,000 per annum, the offer isn't bad. For a user in Tamil Nadu, Videocon's scheme is more lucrative with 30 minutes of free calls every day and unlimited locals calls to Videocon Mobile users for 1 year, which translates to savings of more than Rs 6,000 per year. Videocon V7400 Expensive handsets such as V7400 come with 30 minutes of local calls free to any network, plus unlimited calls to local Videocon numbers daily for 12 months, translating to savings of more than Rs 6,000. Videocon V7400 is an Android 2.1, 3G handset with a 2.8 inch touchscreen that has display resolution of 320 x 240 pixels. The phone uses Wifi connectivity, A-GPS for mapping, has a 3.2 mega pixel camera, uses Bluetooth, and its memory is expandable up to 16 GB. But at Rs 13,000 the phone isn't a good deal because Micromax Andro, which has similar specs, is available for Rs 8,000. Videocon V7500 Another phone powered by Android 2.1 Eclair, which is an old version of the OS, V7500 has a 3.2 inch touchscreen, and comes bundled with an 8 GB micro SD card. The phone's memory is expandable to 32 GB, and it has a 5 mega pixel camera. V7500 works on 3.5G, Wifi and A-GPS, networks. It has a preloaded push mail client associated with the Gmail server. Where features are concerned, the phone is decent. But, it's outrageously expensive. An MRP of nearly Rs 20,000 is not justified. V7500 is available at below Rs 11,000 in the open market, but for the free talktime you have to pay the MRP, which is not a wise decision. You can, in fact, buy a much better Android phone from manufacturers such as HTC, Samsung, LG or Sony Ericsson for Rs 20,000. Verdict While at the lower end, the offer brings substantial savings, with regard to higher end handsets, it does not result in any savings at all. Moreover, there are several plans from service providers such as Reliance Communications, Uninor and Tata Teleservices which offer unlimited intra operator (e.g. Tata to Tata) calls for a small amount, like Rs 30 per month. Plans that enable free calls to any network are also available, though the simplicity of Videocon's offer can't be denied. Note: We have calculated savings based on a call rate of 1 paisa per second. Source:Mobileindian

Sure....there's a difference.....in tracking, escalations etc.,.... What difference?? It's not relevant for this topic. They've to read to identify to which TERM cell it has to be routed to....or at least to identify the operator to which it has to be routed to...... Stringent mail should have been send to Airtel with bunch of similar cases with warning. "Simply do not have any teeth" is not a correct statement as for as MNP is concerned. If govt does not have teeth who else on earth has? Come on my dear friend..... Just don't get carried away by some lazy answer you've received once from DG office.

Sorry....Clearly Airtel has admitted that they've worked only in the direction of DoT. General grievance is more of intra-operator issue but MNP is inter-operator issue and I feel DoT has powers to dictate in case of MNP. Forget about the portal, everyone knows it may not work. But, ca@trai.gov.in & ddgpg-dot@nic.in certainly works as per the given information. Least of all, I expect Airtel to work unless otherwise there has been specific stringent communication from DoT/TRAI. Not even in best of insane mood, I can think of appreciating Airtel for this specific case. Please give the credit where it is due.....If not(when in doubt), at least don't give credit where it should not be....

Gabbar sends Kaalia and two others to Ramgarh to collect the loot-maar software he had ordered. They reach Ramgarh and start shouting: "Abe O thakur! Kahan hai woh loot-maar software? Last date to kab ka nikal gaya". Thakur [with anger]: "Chillao mat! jaakar Gabbar se kah do ke Thakur Software walon ne paagal kutton ke liye software banana bund kar diya hai." Kaalia: "Bahoot garmi dikha rahe ho thakur? Koi naye programmers hire kiye hain kya?" Thakur: "Nazar uttha ke dekh, Kaalia, tere sar par powerbuilder chal raha hai." Kaalia looks up and sees Viru (Dharmendra) working on a PC on one Water tank and Jay (Amitabh) on another, using a laptop. Kaalia Starts Laughing and says: "Ha ha... thakur ne freshers ko liya hai ye log Programming karenge? In ko to DOS commands bhi nahin aate." Veeru shouts: "Chup-chaap chala ja kutte. Hum log consultants hain, Kuch bhi kar sakte hain." Jay hits his keyboard,then says:"jaao kaalia, Gabbar se kahna ki uska server down ho gaya." AT GABBAR'S DEN... Gabbar: "Kitne bugs the?" Kaalia: "Do sarkaar." Gabbar: "Wo do! Aur tum teen. Phir bhi fix nahi kar sake? Kya soch key aaye ho? Gabbar bahoot khush hoga? Naya assignment dega ...aur increment bhi? Iski saza milegi... barobar milegi." [snatches an X terminal from Sambaa]. "Kitne sessions hain is machine mein?" Sambaa: "Chhey sarkaar." Gabbar: "Session chhey aur programmer teen. Bahoot naainsaafi hai." [logout - logout - logout]. "Haan ab theek hai... ab tera kya hoga" Kaalia?" Kaalia: "Sarkaar, maine aapka code likha tha." Gabbar: "To ab documentation kar! (copy-paste)

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DOT is taking some action if you complain. For me the mail to DOT worked. First my porting request was rejected by Airtel saying my number is in my company name bla bla. Then I complained to DOT, TRAI, Nodal officer etc. Then again I tried to port out and everything went smoothly. And after porting was over, I got a call from Airtel corporate care to confirm everything was ok as I had complained to DOT. The point here is I never sent a copy or told Airtel that I am complaining to DOT. So I am 100% sure DOT has taken some action. This is the copy of mail AIrtel sent to after allowing port out Dear R.Ganesan, Thank you for contacting to Airtel. This is with reference to your complaint to DOT with reference number : DOTEL/E/2011/00878 dated 02 February 2011 requesting for Port-out of your Airtel number 98940*****. As per the telephonic conversation on Airtel number 98940***** with the undersigned, we would like to inform you that concern number has already port-out from Airtel with effect from 12 February 2011. In future too, please feel free to speak to our call center executive on 121 regarding any issue/concern. You can also email us at 121@airtelindia.com. You can get in touch with the Nodal Officer with your earlier request or complaint number if it's still unresolved. You may send an email at nodalofficer.tn@airtel.in or you may call at 952434865 from 9:30 AM to 6:30 PM Monday to Friday. The Nodal officer will provide a resolution to your complaint in 10 days. If you do not receive a satisfactory response from Nodal officer you may send an email at appellate.tn@airtel.in or you may call at 9940644865 from 9:30 AM to 6:30 PM Monday to Friday. Warm Regards Rajat Saxena Customer Service Bharti Airtel Limited And please find below the complaint which I sent to DOT, TRAI Dear Sir/Madam, My mobile number is 98940***** - Airtel Tamilnadu. I have taken this connection in my company name and also have CUG within my group. Now as I do not have sufficient coverage in my office, I applied to port out my number to Aircel, Tamilnadu. My request for mobile number portability was rejected by Bharthi Airtel(GSM) saying due to subsisting contractual obligation from the subscriber agreement. Then I contacted Airtel customer care and they said as my number is in my company name and CUG, I cannot port out. If I need to port out I have to change the connection to individual status or pre-paid and then also only after 90 days I can port out my number from Airtel. So Airtel is forcing to me to be with them against my will. This is completely against the very purpose of MNP. Now I have no option but to change convert my number to pre-paid and wait for 90 days to port out of Airtel. As I have no coverage in my office, I am really affected very much. Kindly take immediate action to port me out of Airtel. Waiting for your immediate action. Warm Regards T.R.Ganesan Kindly lodge your grievance on www.pgportal.gov.in

Beer Troubleshooting Symptom: Feet cold and wet. Fault: Glass being held at incorrect angle. Solution: Turn glass so that open end is pointing at ceiling. Symptom: Drinking fails to give satisfaction and taste; beer unusually pale and clear. Fault: Glass is empty. Solution: Find someone who will buy you another pint. SYMPTOM: Feet warm and wet. FAULT: Improper bladder control. ACTION: Stand next to nearest dog, complain about house training. SYMPTOM: Opposite wall covered with fluorescent lights. FAULT: You have fallen over backward. ACTION: Have yourself leashed to bar. SYMPTOM: Mouth contains cigarette butts. FAULT: You have fallen forward. ACTION: See above. Symptom: Bar moving. Fault: You are being carried out. Solution: Find out if you are being taken to another bar - if not complain loudly that you are being hi-jacked. SYMPTOM: Room seems unusually dark. FAULT: Bar has closed. ACTION: Confirm home address with bartender. SYMPTOM: Taxi suddenly takes on colorful aspect and textures. FAULT: Beer consumption has exceeded personal limitations. ACTION: Cover mouth. SYMPTOM: Everyone looks up to you and smiles. FAULT: You are dancing on the table. ACTION: Fall on somebody cushy-looking. SYMPTOM: Beer is crystal-clear. FAULT: It's water. Somebody is trying to sober you up. ACTION: Punch him. SYMPTOM: Hands hurt, nose hurts, mind unusually clear. FAULT: You have been in a fight. ACTION: Apologize to everyone you see, just in case it was them. SYMPTOM: Don't recognize anyone, don't recognize the room you're in. FAULT: You've wandered into the wrong party. ACTION: See if they have free beer. SYMPTOM: Your singing sounds distorted. FAULT: The beer is too weak. ACTION: Have more beer until your voice improves. SYMPTOM: Don't remember the words to the song. FAULT: Beer is just right. ACTION: Play air guitar. Symptom: You have woken up to find your bed cold, hard and wet. You cannot see your bedroom walls or ceiling. Fault: You have spent the night in the gutter. Solution: Check your watch to see if its opening time - if not treat yourself to a lie in.

@Kesav As per your theory, had Unitech not sold stake to Nortel at 6 times the actual license fee, we would be witnessing 1p/10sec instead of the current half paisa per sec by Uninor ? What extra have few new telcos like Videocon, (who haven't even diluted stake like Swan & Unitech), done for sake of Competition with so-called cheap license? They are interested in first getting back their comparatively tiny Investment & are going with the Tariff flow .. But you see, now Videocon's new Ad says 0 p/sec - what does that mean anyways ? Some competition.. Look at all new players, whats their current combined market share ? Less than 5% Don't know whether we can call this impressive, even after getting licenses more than a year back.. Where are the walk-in stores by Videocon, Uninor etc. for providing better services in cities ? (forget villages who will anyways be forever frustrated with CC helpline) Truth is, most of the new Telcos wont survive this mad rush & will eventually sell themselves off, despite paying the so-called low license fee.. Then again, they can make huge profits when Foreign Tecos try to enter India, but again, can they compete on price & benefit the poor ? And regarding serving the poor, Tariffs aren't designed District/Village-wise, its Circle-wise.. so its the same for the Rich & Poor alike.. Had this been done through auctioning, max 2-3 new operators would have emerged & survived along with existing 4-5 operators.. thats enough competition for our Country.. & enough money earned through bidding.. all would've been happy ! Subsidies are designed for the ppl at the bottom of the Pyramid, not Corporate Honchos. As they're in the business of making profits out of such subsidy.. So that's indeed one disastrous comparison by the PM in his press conference !

For a Change...This is Hard Core Investigative Journalism...Don't Miss It...Now You Know...Why Anil Ambani was at CBI HeadQuarters Yesterday!!! Fresh money trail emerges in 2G spectrum case This one links the Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group, a Delhi realty group, Shahid Balwa, and an influential Maharashtra politician Ashish Khetan. New Delhi. Tehelka. The 2G spectrum scam is getting murkier by the day. A well-known Maharashtra politician and a Delhi-based real estate group have now come under the probe agencies' scanner for their suspected role in the telecom scam. This newest revelation takes the investigation to the doorsteps of political parties other than the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK). Over the past week, the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) has interrogated at length senior officials of the Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group and Amit Sarin, the Delhi-based billionaire and real estate tycoon, asking them to explain a string of suspicious transactions, particularly one where Rs 100 crore was transferred to Shahid Balwa a day after he applied for a telecom licence. The CBI has unearthed a money trail of Rs 100 crore that starts from the Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group, goes through the Delhi-based real estate company Anant Raj Group and Mumbai billionaire Shahid Balwa, and finally ends with a company associated with an influential Maharashtra politician. This lends credence to the belief that 37-year-old Balwa was not the only beneficiary from the windfall gains made by Swan Telecom—one of the nine new companies to which former telecom minister A Raja had allocated precious 2G spectrum at dirt-cheap rates. It is now alleged that Reliance Telecom and a stalwart in Maharashtra politics who is often touted as a prime ministerial candidate by his supporters have also made stupendous illegal gains from Swan Telecom. This startling disclosure has come within a week of the Supreme Court instructing the CBI to go after the real beneficiaries of the scam 'even if they are millionaires or feature in the Forbes rich list and find out their role in the conspiracy.' The CBI has already uncovered a massive fund transfer of Rs 209.25 crore from Balwa to Kalaignar TV—a Chennai-based media house owned by DMK chief M Karunanidhi's family—which the agency now claims was a kickback paid by Balwa to the DMK. In addition, the CBI has sent a letter rogatory to the government of Mauritius asking for details of a dubious company to which Reliance Telecom had sold the 9.81 percent stake it held in Swan Telecom in December 2008, just two weeks after Raja gave ADAG the dual technology licence. According to CBI sources, Reliance Telecom had sold its stake to Mauritius-based Delphi Investments for Rs 35 crore, which was a pittance considering that Balwa sold his 44.7 percent stake to Etisalat for a staggering Rs 3,218 crore. The agency suspects that the undervalued Delphi deal was a pay-off. The two deals—with Sarin and Delphi Investments—together have put Ambani in a tight spot. Besides, the CBI is also looking into over a dozen banking transactions between different ADAG companies on 18 October 2007—the day Reliance Telecom was granted 2G spectrum under the dual technology policy. TEHELKA sent a detailed questionnaire to ADAG asking specifically, among other things, about its deal with Delphi and the Rs 100 crore transaction with the Anant Raj Group. ADAG chose to not respond to these specific queries. However, Sarin, Director and CEO of the Anant Raj Group, while speaking to this reporter, admitted to having received Rs 100 crore from ADAG and having transferred it to Sidhartha Consultancy—a company originally owned by ADAG and whose ownership was transferred to Balwa on 25 February 2007. Sarin had promised to meet this reporter again after checking his books so he could explain the transactions. But, he did not respond to repeated SMSes seeking his formal response in the matter. The CBI in the meantime has interrogated both Sarin and ADAG Company Secretary Hari Nair. The Rs 100 crore transaction between ADAG and the Anant Raj Group happened on 3 March 2007—the same day when Balwa applied for a telecom licence. Both the timing and the nature of the transaction are extremely suspicious, say CBI sources. This is only one among hundreds of complex banking transactions that lie at the core of the 2G scam, which both the CBI and the Enforcement Directorate have been trying to crack to conclusively establish the beneficiaries of the scam, including the kickbacks that were allegedly paid to Raja and senior officials in the Department of Telecommunications (DoT). The dizzying multitude of banking transactions stretches across dozens of banks in different cities of India and over half a dozen offshore tax havens and involve not just Swan Telecom but also other big companies, both domestic and international. Like the Unitech Group, ADAG, Datacom Solutions (owned by the Videocon Group), Loop Telecom (owned by the Essar Group), the Tata Group and Dubai-based Etisalat Telecom. In January 2008, Raja gave away 122 unified access service (UAS) licences and 35 dual technology licences, and with it the precious 2G spectrum at 2001 prices, thus causing a loss of Rs 1,76,645 crore to the national exchequer, according to the Comptroller and Auditor General of India. The 122 new UAS licences went to nine telecom companies including Swan and Unitech, while a majority of the dual technology licences went to Tata Teleservices and Reliance Telecom. ADAG transfers Rs 100 crore to Shahid Balwa through Anant Raj Agencies for no apparent reason On 3 March 2007, an ADAG company named Sonata Investments transferred Rs 100 crore to Oriental Buildtech, which is owned and controlled by the Anant Raj Group. Within a few hours, another Anant Raj Group company—Anant Raj Agencies—transferred Rs 100 crore to Sidhartha Consultancy, which was at the time owned by the Balwa-led DB Realty Group. So, in effect, Rs 100 crore that originated from an ADAG company landed with Balwa. What is even more intriguing is that ADAG owned Sidhartha Consultancy (earlier called Giraffe Consultancy), the company in which the money was parked, till 24 February 2007. On 25 February, the company was taken over by the Balwa's DB Group. And six days later, on 2 March, Balwa applied for the 2G licence. The CBI believes that the Balwa Group in turn passed this money on to a company associated with a senior Maharashtra politician. The big picture that emerges is that Balwa was not the only player behind Swan Telecom, as ADAG has been insisting. It appears that, seizing upon the opportunity to make a killing in the ongoing 2G spectrum loot, many influential politicians and corporate houses made money through proxies. Swan is just one of the many companies that allegedly acted as proxy for big corporate houses. On 11 January, Ramesh Rathod, Telugu Desam Party MP from Adilabad, wrote to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh furnishing documentary evidence that the Tata group funded the entire amount of Rs 1,700 crore paid by the Unitech group for acquiring the UAS licence. The agencies are also trying to lift the veil from companies like Datacom (which was set up by HFCL Group along with Videocon) and Loop Telecom (backed by Essar) and find out who the real beneficiaries were. Swan, Tiger, Parrot, Zebra, Penguin, Giraffe: A corporate menagerie The CBI believes that the conspiracy behind the Swan Telecom was hatched in early 2006 when ADAG created a web of newly formed companies named after animals. The following six companies were incorporated between March and July 2006: 1. Swan Infonet (later renamed Parrot Consultants); incorporated on 17 March 2006 2. Penguin International Ventures Pvt Ltd (later renamed Reliance Utility Engineers) on 26 June 2006 3. Swan Advisory Services Pvt Ltd (later renamed Zebra Consultants Pvt Ltd) on 21 March 2006 4. Giraffe Consultancy Pvt Ltd (later renamed Sidhartha Consultancy) on 27 June 2006 5. Tiger Traders on 20 March 2006, and 6. Swan Capital Pvt Ltd (later renamed as Swan Telecom) on 13 July 2006 All these companies were incorporated with an initial share capital of Rs 1 lakh each. Even these few lakhs allegedly came from the bank accounts of top ADAG officials. Besides, either an ADAG company or directors of ADAG owned equity in these companies. The addresses provided in the incorporation documents were those of the registered office of ADAG. These companies had no substantial business activity except for changing their shareholding pattern frequently till January 2007. Of these six companies, Parrot, Zebra and Tiger had inter-collapsible shareholding. That is, Parrot and Tiger owned Zebra, Zebra and Tiger owned Parrot, and Parrot and Zebra owned Tiger. The shareholding pattern of Swan Capital Pvt Ltd, which was owned by ADAG companies till January 2007, was suddenly changed on 20 January 2007, with Tiger Traders taking over all of Swan Capital's 10,000 shares. The January-February 2007 period was extremely crucial as Swan Capital was about to apply for the much-coveted telecom licence. Under DoT rules, an existing telecom player could not have more than 10 percent equity in a new telecom company. Hence, Swan and its holding companies were gradually transferred to Balwa's DB Realty Group so he could successfully procure the UAS licence in his name. But there was one problem. To be eligible, Swan Capital (later Swan Telecom) had to ratchet up the required paid-up equity and net worth in conformity with DoT guidelines. When Swan Capital and its holding companies were transferred to Balwa, they had paid-up equity of Rs 1 lakh each. ADAG finances Swan Telecom to the tune of over Rs 1,000 crore In a bid to pump in massive funds into Swan (which was required to meet the application criterion), Ambani left behind the money trail that connects him to Balwa and the alleged illegal gains he made. As explained above, ADAG transferred Swan Capital/Telecom to Tiger Traders on 20 January 2007. Two days later, on 22 January, the share capital of Swan was increased from Rs 1 lakh to Rs 4 crore. But even this was not sufficient. Swan wanted to apply for licences across 13 circles (the DoT had divided the country into 22 telecom circles). To become eligible, Swan needed a paid-up equity of Rs 103 crore and a net worth of Rs 1,030 crore (these figures were calculated as per DoT guidelines). Additionally, Swan needed to amend its memorandum and articles of association stating telecom as its core business. On 15 February, Swan Capital was changed to Swan Telecom. And on 1 March, the company's paid-up equity was increased to Rs 110 crore, divided into 10.9 crore equity shares of Rs 10 each and 99.2 lakh preference shares of Re 1 each. The 10.9 crore shares of Rs 10 each were divided between Tiger Traders and Reliance Telecom, with the former taking 90.1 percent of the shares and Reliance Telecom taking 9.9 percent, in conformity with the DoT guideline of an existing telecom player not holding more than 10 percent equity in a new telecom company. So now Swan's paid-up equity was Rs 109 crore, a little more than the required Rs 103 crore. But the net worth was still to be taken up to Rs 1,030 crore. To do that, Reliance Telecom bought the 99,20,000 preference shares of Re 1 at Rs 1,000 each, paying a boggling premium of Rs 999 per preference share, with each share overvalued by 99,900 percent. All this was done on 1 March and a day later, on 2 March, Swan Telecom moved its application before the DoT for the telecom licence. But in this last-minute scramble, ADAG left its fingerprints behind. When Swan Telecom applied for the licence, on paper Tiger Traders was the majority stakeholder and Reliance Telecom a minor shareholder. And Tiger Traders in turn was owned by ADAG-owned Parrot and Zebra. It was only a month after the application that Balwa officially took over Tiger Traders. On 25 February 2007, the DB Reality Group took over ADAG's Giraffe Consultancy. On 26 March 2007, Giraffe was renamed Sidhartha Consultancy. And on 4 April 2007, Sidhartha Consultancy bought the stakes of Parrot and Zebra in Tiger Traders. Thus, Tiger Traders, the majority stake holder in Swan telecom, finally came under Balwa's control. This bewildering web of cross shareholdings lies at the core of the 2G scam. The CAG in its report tabled in Parliament in November 2010 had stated that, 'total stake of RTL (Reliance Telecom) in the Swan Telecom was of Rs 1002.79 crore as against equity holding of Rs 98.22 crore by the majority shareholder Tiger Traders Private Ltd. This raises doubts about the intention of the RTL and the control it would exercise in a new company incorporated barely few months ago. Hence the application of such company to enter telecom sector goes against the intent and spirit behind the UAS guidelines.' Tehelka asked ADAG pointed questions on the specific issues of changing shareholding pattern and the staggering investment done by it in the shape of preference shares as explained above. But ADAG chose to give vague replies without going into the details In a statement emailed to Tehelka, ADAG stated: "Neither Reliance Telecom, nor RCOM, nor any Reliance ADAG individual, company or affiliate held even a single share in Swan Telecom Ltd., at the time of grant of the 2G license to them in January 2008, or at any time thereafter." Further, it claimed that "Reliance Communications has not violated any of its license conditions at any stage, on account of cross-holdings of 10 percent or above in any another Licensee, and is in full compliance with all applicable DoT guidelines, rules and regulations." The CAG report had not minced words while calling Swan a front company of ADAG. It had said: "Swan Telecom did not meet the eligibility criteria on the date of application, its application should have been rejected by the DoT and the company should have been directed to apply afresh. Even if it was to be considered eligible on the basis of its old application, the date of priority based on FCFS [first come, first served] basis should have been revised from March 2007 to December 2007 in order to ensure fairness. Had it been so, the company would have been out of the race as the department processed only those applications which were received up to 25 September 2007." On 2 March, Reliance routes Rs 100 crore into Sidhartha Consultancy By 25 February, Sidhartha (erstwhile Giraffe Consultancy) was already taken over by Balwa's DB Realty. The investigators are trying to crack the intent behind the dubious Rs 100 crore that ADAG routed to Sidhartha Consultancy through Delhi-based realtor Sarin. Around the same time, another Rs 100 crore was transferred from the DB Group to a company associated with the Maharashtra politician. The CBI is now trying to connect the dots. Sources have told TEHELKA that Sarin is ready to sing. He has already provided the CBI email exchanges between him and ADAG officials. The CBI has grilled at least five senior ADAG officials over the past month. ADAG Company Secretary Hair Nair was grilled on 13 February. Among other ADAG officials who have been examined so far are Gautam Doshi and Madhu Kela. Besides, senior executives from half a dozen other companies have also been interrogated. Chief among them are Vinod Goenka, Chairman of Dynamix Balwa Group; Sanjay Chandra, Managing Director of Unitech; Sandeep Basu, Loop Mobile CEO; Arun Mandhana, S Tel's Chief Financial Officer, and Rupendra Kumar Sikka, its Chief Regulatory Officer; Sanjay Ubale, Tata Realty and Infrastructure Ltd CEO, and its CFO Kishore Saletore. The CBI is trying to crack a maze of complex shareholding patterns and hundreds of banking transactions to identify the kickbacks allegedly paid to Raja. A month before Swan is granted the UAS licence, Reliance Telecom sells 9.8 percent stake in Swan to a dubious Mauritius company On 5 December 2007, Reliance Telecom sold 9.8 percent stake to Mauritius-based Delphi Investments for just Rs 35 crore. The same group had paid a phenomenal 99,900 percent premium just a few months ago while buying preference shares in the same company. Now when the company was all set to get 2G spectrum, he sold his 9.8 percent paid-up equity for a song. The market valuation of the stake was around Rs 800 crore. Thus ADAG sold its stake at an estimated loss of over Rs 750 crore. Investigators believe that the Ambani-Delphi deal was a payoff to Raja. Ambani knew that Swan was certain to get the precious licence as Raja had already made it clear to the Prime Minister he would go ahead with his first come, first served policy, according to which all those who had applied for a licence till 25 September 2007 were eligible. Swan had applied on 3 March and thus was ahead in the race. The CBI is now trying to unlock the mystery behind Delphi. In the second week of January this year, the CBI had sent a letter rogatory to Mauritius seeking the identity of the people who control Delphi. According to initial inputs available with the sleuths, Delphi is connected to bank accounts in Switzerland and a few other tax havens in Europe. The alibi peddled by ADAG officials is that they don't know the real owners of Delphi because they dealt with merchant bankers while cutting the deal. Balwa and Goenka, his partner in the DB Group, made a stupendous profit of Rs 3,217 crore when they sold their 44.7 per cent stake to Dubai-based Etisalat Telecom. Intriguingly, when Etisalat paid the money to the DB Group, they also routed it through Mauritius instead of investing it directly through their parent company in Dubai. A separate company in the name of Etisalat Mauritius was floated just for this deal. In its letter rogatory to Mauritius, the CBI has also asked for the bank details of Etisalat Mauritius. The point is: Will the CBI be able to join the dots and book all those who made illegal gains, disregarding the high positions in the government that they may hold? Can it break the vice-like grip that big corporates like ADAG have over the government? Source:Tehelka

Good One Kumaar Bhai +1 Achha, toh yeh faayde hain Walking ke ???? Daaktar Babu......kahan ho.....dekho dekho Kumaar Bhai kya keh rahe hain..... Mujhe gumm karwaana chahte thhe forum se ? Hain Daaktar ???? Isiliye mujhe LAMBEEEEEE WALI WALK per bhej rahe thhe? Taaki mai jab pachaas saal ka ho jaaun aur mera wajan 103 se badh ke 130 ho jaye to bhi na miloo kisi ko bhi. Hain ??? Thanks Kumaar Bhai.....ye walking per facts post karne ke liye. Ab walking se apni toh chutti. Agar mai walk karte karte kahee kho gaya (yani bahut aagey Himalyas tak pahuch gaya) toh meri old lady .....yaani apki Aunty .....mujhe DHOONDHTI REH JAEGI bechari. Kyunki fir usko he saarey kapde dhone padengey. And I'm serious in this thread of Non-Sms-Stuff....No joke.

I've seen foolish statements were made Prannoy Roy of NDTV against linking non-auction of 2G spectrum vs subsidies in food and fertilizers. He says food and fertilizer subsidies are given to poor people and by not auctioning 2G subsidy is given to corporates. What an ill-educated comment is this? Who is the beneficiary of 'first-come-first-serve'(not auctioning 2G)? new telecom players. Who is responsible for competition in telecom sector? new telecom players What is the effect of competition? lowest tariff in the world What is effect of lowest tariff? poorest of poor in India is communicating through mobile What is effect of such afford-ability? Country is able to withstand one of the greatest depression and still able to keep the GDP at very good level. In essence, the key and real beneficiaries of 'First-come-First-Serve' is Indians who struggle everyday to keep themselves alive. so Let us stop this non-sense once for all. There is absolutely no loss to the country due to 'First-come-First-serve'. "First-come-First-serve" is the real hero behind our telecom revolution. Don't kill it just for the sake somebody's ill-thought out calculations. They've realized the truth already(through the TRAI's market price calculation) still clinging on to it for the sake of "EGO". Journalists, Politicians everyone is affected by EGO-flu. No one is dare to accept that they've made a mistake. After all, we're talking about a breed(of Bharka Dutt) who refused to apologize in her own television channel when given a chance. I beg with these journalists to move away from their cosy rooms and visit the people of rural India then they can realize the benefits of "First-come-First-serve" 'Auction' in 2G is utter non-sense and it's promoted through 'paid' media by big wigs only to kill the competition. The focus should and must only be on the procedural irregularities committed by DoT in following "first-come-first-serve". There is an suspicion that some companies jumped the queue which must be identified and corrected. Don't waste media space and political space by clinging on to stupid theory of 'loss to exchequer' only to save your 'egos'.

I am NOT shocked... this is what is happening in each and every city of this country... In my case, I gave them a slap back; I wanted my son to be admitted in the school that I had studied all my life; But realised that i will need to "fake" a birth certificate to get things going according to their rules; i.e. start my son's future on a "lie"; donno how many more to come; which I did; then got admission; then I "rejected" their admission; wrote a 3 page letter to their Brother (Principal in a convent school) and explained to him why my beloved school was going to the dogs and why I "didnt" get my son admitted in his school... Got a reply back to come to talk to him to improve the school... in the meanwhile got my son admitted in DPS which had just started in Meerut at that time; am totally satisfied as on date with that decision... Now, my sincere advice to you - Nurture your child to learn things rather than be taught; These so called "reputed" schools which churn out robots may teach but they dont educate; Let him get admitted into "any" decent school; even a student admitted in so called "hindi" medium schools can achieve the greatest heights in life if his concepts are made clear; its your environment at home that matters more rather the school to make him a better person in life... otherwise the rat race is all out there and everyone's running...

Friends, now I can't stop myself from posting this.....specially scripted for you Rimwebians. Read this in the same tone as it was in the movie....fir dekho kitna mazaa ayega. Kumaar Bhai....hope this time you won't fell off your chair while reading this. ----------------------------------- Here we go : Mausi : Arre beta, bus itna samajh lo ke ghar mein Bin Paani Kee Pichkaari, seene per pathar ke sil ki tarah hoti hai. Basanti ko koi FASCINATE PICHKAARI wala mil jaye toh chain ki saans loon. Jay : Haan sach kaha mausi aapne. Badaa bojh hai aap par. Mausi : Lekin beta, iss bojh ko koi koney mein toh phaink nahi deta. Bura nahi maananaa, itnaa toh poochnaa he padtaa hai ke khandaan mein kitni Andro Pichkaariyaan hain ? Unka Rang Kaunsa Hai ? Mahine mein Recharge kitne ka karwaata hai ? Jay : Recharge karwane ka toh yeh hai mausi......ke ek baar Andro Pichkaari ki jimmedaari sir pe aa gayi toh......recharge bhi karwaane lagega. Mausi : Toh kya abhi kuch bhi nahi karwaata ? Jay : Nahi nahi ye maine kab kahaa mausi, karwaata hai lekin.....ab roz roz toh aadmi ko L1 ka naya uncle SAM nahi milta na....kabhi bin uncle ke padaa rehta hai bechara. Mausi : Bin Uncle SAM ke padaa rehta hai ? Jay : Haan mausi ab yeh kambakht L1 cheez he aisi hai.....ab mai kya kahoo ? Mausi : Hainn ???? Toh kya MUFTI hai ? Jay : Chhi Chhi Chhi Chhi mausi, woh aur MUFTI.... na na na. Woh toh bahut he achha aur nek ladka hai. Lekin mausi, ek baar VAS activate ker liya na, phir achhe burey ka kahaan hosh rehtaa hai. Haath pakad ke baitha liya kisi ne Pickari mein BIKNI GIRLS dekhne, ab ismein bechaare Veeru ka kya dosh ? Mausi : Theek kahte ho beta, MUFTI woh, BIKNI GIRLS dekhne wala woh, lekin uska koi dosh nahi. Jay : Mausi aap toh merey dost ko galat samajh rahi hain. Woh toh itnaa seedha aur bhola hai, Arey Basanti se uski shaadi karke toh dekhiye, ye BIKNI GIRLS aur MUFAT ki aadat toh doh din mein chhoot jaayegi. Mausi : Arre beta, mujh budhiyaa ko samjhaa rahe ho. Yeh BIKNI GIRLS aur MUFAT ki aadatein kisi ki chhooti hai aaj tak. Jay : Mausi aap Veeru ko nahi jaanti, vishwaas kijiye, wo is tarah kaa insaan nahi hai. Ek baar shaadi ho gayee toh woh PICHKARI ki RANGEEN TUBE per CABARETS dekhna bandd kar dega...bus Bikni Girls apne aap chhoot jaegi. Mausi : Haye Haye, bus yehi ek kami reh gayee thi. Toh kya CABARETS ka bhi Diwaana hai ? Jay : Toh ismein kaunsi buri baat hai mausi. Arey Cabarets toh Rajaa Maharaaja, Industrialists aur unchey unchey khandaan ke log dekhte hain apni Andro Pichkaari mein. Mausi : Achhaa ! Toh beta yeh bhi bataate jaao ki tumhaare yeh gunwaan dost kaun si company ki PICHKARI use karte hain ? Jay : Bus mausi, Pichkaari ki company ka pataa chalte hi hum aapko khabar de denge. Mausi : Ek baat ki daad doongi beta, bhale sau buraaiyaan hain tumhare dost mein, phir bhi tumhare muh se us ke liye taareefein he nikalti hain. Jay : Ab kya karoo mausi....mera toh dil he kcuh aisa hai..........Toh mai ye rishta pakka samjhoon ? Mausi : Pakkaa ?.......Bhale saari zindagi ladki bin PICHKAARI ke baithi rahe. Lekin mai aisi CHINESE CRAP PICHKAARI wale se Basanti ko nahi byaahnewaali. Sagee mausi hoon, koi sautelee maa nahi. Jay : Ajeeb baat hai, merey itne samajhaane per bhi aap ne inkaar kar diyaa....Bechaaraa Veeru...na jaane kya karega ? And here is the original video of Jay & Mausi Ji Dialogues.

Two RAM modules for desktop I dont know which one is DDR1 and DDR2, in my belief one is 256 MB and one is 512 MB Just let me know which one you want. I have marked as 1 and 2

Sasur apne Damaad Se : 6 saal mein 6 bachhe.....Yeh Kya Hai ? Damaad : Maine aapse pahle he kaha tha, ke gareeb jaroor hoon, magar apki beti ko kabhi KHALI PAIT nahi rakhunga.

@cavarun - I bought an original nokia micro usb one (imported from china) for 300 bucks... working perfect; there's also an original samsung one (of galaxy-s) available at any good samsung store.... 6-700 bucks... - http://www.samsung.com/in/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/mobile-phone-accessories/CAD300UBEC/INU/index.idx?pagetype=acc_detail&subsubtype=car-charger @rajan - let this thread remain ONLY for android.... as we have been bitten by the green bot and dont look anywhere else...