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So, digging around I found KaiOS based handsets. The Nokia 8110 4G is particularly interesting. 25 days of standby.The OS has apps for YouTube, WhatsApp, Facebook, Twitter (third party), Google Maps, TEDx App etc, Sounds like a good one. Almost feel like buying it. Wish form factor were candybar like Nokia E71/72

I really miss the diversity of handsets.With a diverse OS. i remember starting with a Motorola Startac or one of those first brick phones that came to India. Outgoing was Rs 32 a minute, incoming Rs 16. Over the years, would excitedly look at new handsets, from Nokia, Ericsson, Motorola, Palm, Sony Ericsson etc. i have owned Ericsson Flip Phones (forgot the model numbers, they were coloured, and the display was slim and only one line, but the smallest smartest flip phones of its time). Sony Ericsson had the W Walkman series which was cool. The Nokia E72 was one of the best phones I had. It had 3G, Qwerty Keyboard, great build quality, gsm, wcdma, gps etc. Symbian S60 was cool. The App Store of its time was getjar. I used spreadsheets on it. And google maps too. It would support J2ME apps. then I had the Sendo X. Another super phone. I used it as a Bluetooth modem with my old PowerBook G3. The Moto Razr was perhaps the best and smartest looking phone ever. There was a candy bar version of Razr which I owned. It had Apple iTunes. The Motorola A780 was a sexy Linux based smartphone with a touch screen as well as a clamshell. I loved it. also had the palm based Kyocera 7135 too. Then the blackberries were cool d the bold. Which had amazing email, the best even by today’s standards. And excellent tools for spreadsheets, word processors etc. loved it. I loved the choice of various phone brands, OS, form factors. i would use scheduleworld.com or zyb.com to synchronise contacts and calendar data between various phones. Now there is only one form factor. A flat screen. And only two OS to choose from. Both very similar, and yet very different. Each comes with an ecosystem that you kind of get locked into. Not much choice. i love the choice of older days.

Try EzSwype.

Been eyeing the Kawasaki ER 6N. Going at a good deal of 5.5 lakhs on road plus I am sure dealer can be nudged into discounts...

the LG Chocolate Phone has been officially announced by LG India. When is Reliance releasig ity? I hear soon, and I believe they are pricing it a wee bit on the expensive side. macandmobile

RIM should have long released the Blackberry by now. what a mistake. they lost all the big corporates to Airtel first, and then Hutch. and considering carriers in india dont subsidize handset, I am sure RIM lost a lot of money from Hardware sales as well.' An airtel guy told me two years back they had sold much more than 10,000 BBs. At an average price of 25,000 each, the Rs 250,000,000! in Harware sales. add other fees. and an average billing of Rs 1000 per person (its actually way more), for 10,000 users its Rs 10,000,000 per month since the last two years. thats some Rs240,000,000!!!

reliance WAS testing some Treo 650s, buts its been more than a year. those phones were packed off (probably poor implementation of JAVA for Roworld) but now they are testing Blackberrys. I have seen Reliance honchos sport Blackberries. Also have read it on some forums. but if reliance continue their attitude of trying to get handsets that aqre in-expensive for them to buy, they will continue getting rotten old useless handsets. when is the LG Chocolate coming? RAZR? PPC based stuff? Linux Based Motos? Palms? BBs? no wonder reliance has the lowest ARPU, since its phones are mostly bought by people who WANT TO BE REACHED, mostly for incoming. Since CDMA players, including Tata Indicom, are mostly aunching low end handsets, those kind of consumers are their staple. the PPC phone that they have finally announced on the site is a pain to buy in real life. I have a friend wwho is trying pillar and post to but the phone, but its available to corporates only, it seems. My advise: If you want a great handset, move to GSM. Get Airtel with their cheapest data palns of Rs 7 per day unlimited access, in Mumbai, and browse on EDGE speeds, with a full democracy of handset choice.

hello guys, just a newbie question... I need mobile internet. Considering RConnect because of higher speed, better than Tata Indicom. I was wondering WHY should I choose a Data Card over a Phone/Data Cable etc? Whats the advantage of using a Data Card when I CAN use a data enabled handset. that will work out cheaper, at least I dont have to buy the PCMCIA Card. What arethe advantages of the PCMCIA card over a Handset? Is it speed? I saw a Demo of the new CHEAPER CHINSE ZTE MC315 at the Webworld and its speed was not impressive. At least not faster than when I had connected using a friend's Nokia 6255. Any suggestions? --I would have loved to go with Blackberry but Airtel's rates are pure butchery. Treo, the phone is too expensive and no carrier in India is offering a Subsidised set. Pocket PC based 'smart'-phone solutions are not an option for me.

the LG 6500 works beautifully with teh Mac as a Modem. However couldnt get BitPim to recognise the phone... Reliance CDMA LG RD6000 Platform: Brew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PPP-> Service Provider: Reliance NetConenct Account Name : Phone number (without country and city code) Password : Same as above Telephone Number : #777 -> PPP Options: Use TCP Header Compression Use Verbose Logging (if you want to see Connection Logs) -> TCP/IP : Configure IPV6 : Automatic -> Modem Script au CDMAone C413S by Sony Dialling: Tone (all else is OFF) apply and save Download speed: 33 kilobits per second Test details: 101 kilobytes downloaded in 24.42 seconds. --- www.yahoo-ht2.akadns.net ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 562.521/813.371/1422.775/266.708 ms Source: http://www.macandmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=1748#1748

a number of CDMA phones are supported by Macs. A lot of Kyocera ones as well. most of teh time, the au Sony CDMA modem driver works. Else you will have to get a little trial and error method. also dial Reliance Customer Care at *399 or something like that and ask them to activate your phone as a modem. the number is perpetually busy so I tried at 5am and got through. That should solve your PAP Authentication Failure error. the RD5130 is a good phone to connect through USB.

lg chocolate phone is out next month, or even earlier, priced at roughly rs 16k

Reliuance isnt getting it. TATA Indicom HAS! the RAZR has sold 50 million pieces worldwide. what kind of acarrier would be stupid to ignore such numbers? thats like mmore than the combined total of Reliance and Airtel in India!!! Tata Indicom seems to be getting better handsets, now ith the Samsung Wideo as well...

get a third party email client based on JAVA and get them on a Java enabled set. also you can try Gmail etc on RWORLD

Nokia phopnes are working. so are a whole host of others. keep posting your experiences, macusers!

the ZTE apparently doesnt work. the sierra wireless cad has officially been supported on the mac by Sierra wireless themelves. the ZTE being a cheap asian card, lacks heritage and peripheral vision in terms of support etc. even their website is terrible and completely in chinese. a better alternative would be to get a PHONE and get RConnect on the freedom at midnight plan and connect via USB/Bluetooth. The speed and performace is teh same, teh only f*up would be carrying a spare cbale and charger along. but its cheaper and better if not as good. many people have managed to connect their phones. check macandmobile.com

upgrade your OS and use Apple Sopftware update to download and update your USB Software. Then look for Mac connect ways at www.macandmobile.com you need to communicate with people who USE macs day in and day out...

true fellow human! check out the fabulous new upcoming Sony Ericsson range ; the W950i, the M600 etc... all GSM/GPRS GSM/GPRS is what democracy is all about. i think i am convinced about selling off my kyocera 7135. i will maybe gift it to my father or a retired uncle...

true, which explains the profile of customers that RIM has

spoken like a true desi. to all else, i have a 7135 which i bought in this 'good-riddance' deal from DAKC. The 7135 is selling in the US for aboutr USD 99. I too would sell mine at that price on this site...only I dont want to go through the hassle of locaing buyers and extorting money. why i want to sell it? its an old outdated hadset with poor audio and HUUUUUUGE bulky mass. Battery performance is very very sad. It will start dying on you by the time its 5.30pm (if you leave it for overnight charging). It runs Palm OS (thats the ONLY good point), but unfortunatley OS 4. The best Palm apps are for OS5. THere is very poor phone to address book connection. The Treo 650 is a killer but unfortunately its not available. After using this phone I think its worth less than 4k. Since its a PDA phone you will mostly keep it in the ON mode working on the large screen, depleting battery faaaaasssst. Even now RIM doesnt have a single phone thats worth buying from a COST+LOOKS+FEATURES angle. And i dont think they are in a hurry to get one either. possible cool CDMA alternatives are : LG VX9800, Treo 650, Treo 700w, Razr V3c etc etc. I Will get rid of the 7135. Maybe gift it to a cousin or something. Its practically useless. Its been lying with RIM for over three years I guess, no wonder the battery is f**d

read this article and I couldnt agree mmore. Shame on Reliance. Only a very desi baniya company, just tom-toming its numbers in volumes... http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/artic...8627&cat_id=517 {{{Being in the media, we are ever so often bombarded with various companies trying to pitch themselves as "world class "and "futuristic" because they introduced something to the Indian consumer that was launched in the US a few months, maybe years back. I hate it when such companies so blatantly try to push yesterday's technology down our gullet in a restricted, overpriced manner. Examples? There are hundreds, but for reference's sake, let's begin with the telecom industry. The biggest culprit of them all? Airtel. They've been pom-pomming their Blackberry service all over the place, pitching it as the latest-greatest productivity tool ever, and looking at the facts, it'd be quite clear to you that Blackberry is an outdated piece of technology which existed in the US ever since the beginning of the dot-com boom. The handsets being sold in India are priced at over twice the price they sell for in the US Market, and the service works out to be about 30 percent more expensive than in the US. We pay more, we get it later, and to top it all, we have to deal with inferior service quality and unhelpful customer support. What's the point? Want another example? Hutch's there. They were "thrilled" to launch the famous Palm Treo 650 in India a few days back; you know when Palm launched that handset? Last calendar year. The GSM version was available for the public to buy since March this year. What's worse, this news comes a few days after Palm's announcement that the next Treo, the 700, is going to be out some time soon, and will have a choice of Windows and Palm OS software. What's the holdup? Why does it take six months to launch the same stuff in India? Thankfully, it wasn't overpriced; considering the fact that the GSM Treo 650 sells for over $600 in the US, the Rs 29,999 MRP was acceptable (especially if you were getting the promised Bluetooth Headset for free). But by far, the most shameless of them all is Reliance Infocomm. At least the others make an effort to bring the latest and the greatest from foreign shores, and then call themselves "world class" - Reliance just sleeps on it all, and still sends us press releases reiterating how great they are every few days. The CDMA handsets scene is exploding worldwide; you can find some of the coolest handsets on foreign CDMA networks in Korea, US, or for that matter, Europe, but not one of them manages to make it to Reliance's plans. They still carry the saddest excuse for a smart phone, the Kyocera Palm OS 4 PDA Phone, and it's a real shame that their portfolio still doesn't include a single decent phone with Bluetooth or proper music playback capabilities? Is it so that they've contented themselves with conquering the value market, and have completely forgotten the high-end market? If they have, it would be the most foolish mistake they've ever made. With users wanting more and more self-selected multimedia on their phones, the sad video clips from R-World, or the horrific ring tones they offer for five bucks each aren't going to cut it for much longer. Bluetooth headsets too are becoming ubiquitous now, and if Reliance doesn't launch a decent phone featuring Bluetooth soon, they're doomed to lose many high end customers who crave for the true wireless hands-free experience. Anyways, the point is, Indian companies need to sit up and take notice of what's happening in the world outside of their domain, adapt to it quickly, and think twice before calling themselves "world class", unless they truly are. }}}

:-) thanks for the insight. anyway at THAT price I would never!!! My brother just bought a BlackMoto V3 Razr and boy does it look geougeous at RS 12,000!!!! WHY on earth would i buy a 6355 at 13k? (or is it 15?) I am actually saving for the Treo 650 which i will run on Airtel's Rs 5 a day unlimited data access GPRS plan. Its hopelessly slow but at leats the phone has a whole lot of other features which are more than useful. I think I should get one for about 26k from Mumbai and cheaper abroad. The upcoming MotoQ is awesome but alas it runs Windoze and I Dont really want to get into a buggy phone system!!! Saw an N9o witha friend. Its awesome!!! Also the LGVX9800 CDMA!!

Does this mean that i can now get an unlocked CDMA handset from abroad and make it work on Reliance? I want to know how to do it and legally through Reliance India Mobile and get a proper RIM phone number and account. Its just that I want a handset of MY choice.

damn! when, when will the world get more democratic!!!

true, i couldnt agree with you more : buts its basic economics. at 35,000 lets say RIM sells 5000 Kyocera 7135s at 17,000 they might sell not 10,000, but maybe 30,000 But somewhere I guess theres a resistance to getting better handsets and offering them at competitive prices. Most of my friends shudder at the thought of getting Reliance. Even I used to. I do now too. The only thing that brings me to these forums is teh fact that Reliance actually has better data services potential, THAN a low cost service provider SHOULD. And theres no denying that RIM IS targetting the corporate secftor a lot. and also, the corporates are more high value THAN people like me. But I am wondering, if a top project management guy wants a RIM phone which one would he go for? No wonder then that corporates are more interested in getting the Wireless Data Cards. And there also RIM has discontinued teh better Sierrra Wireless Cards. Its a strange phase that we are going through. There are some people (although they are only a nano fraction of our populattion) who want good data services as well as usable handsets at a reasonalbe cost but there are NO carriers supporting that. Hutch offers EDGE at 650 pm PLUS 50 paise per kilo bit after I GB (i think) which I think is highway robbery. Its almost like a direct dollar conversion of rates. Reliance have a great service. But they should let people get better handset to leverage teh brand equity as well as make it more sensible for Urban Educated users as well. Since thay ALREADY DO HAVE a vasr majority of the masses.

the new Rs6500 chinese card performance s**ks. plus whay should i BUY a card PLUS buy a phone plus pay for both? which is whay i had raised the question if I can get similar performance from data card and phone? Relaince doesnt have bad handsets? I am looking at a, lets say a Nokia 6600 kind of features at that kind of proce : Rs 9900??? RIM Nokia 6255 is crippled in terms of browsing and mail, is feature poor, costs Rs 13000. Does RIM have anything to compete with Nokia N Series? or Hutch Palm? The Kyocera is priced, last asked, at 35k and it doesnt even have Bluetooth and camera??? Cellular Services abroiad provide massive subsidies to keep customers as well as encourage use of higher end DATA services. GSM Treo Goes for USD 179, Moto MPX 220 for free, Razr for free, Blackberry 7100t for free, CDMA Treo 650 for free, Blackberry 7250 for 199 USD etc. Plus there are millions of schemes where you can get your stuff cheaper. Here we have to pay the manufacturer's dollar equivalent price PLUS cost of import duties PLUS less than exciting data services PLUS of course hardly any CHOICE of handsets. And we are supposed to be having a telecom revolution in this country. Tell me one good handset buy from RIM at a price equivalent to Rs 12000 and less, for a Smartphone based on Palm/Series 60/Blackberry OS BUNDLED with Document Reader software, bluetooh, SD/MMC Card Slot, and a virtually UNLIMITED phone book with EMAIL and full HTML internet Browsing??? For GSM/GPRS theres the vast majority of Series 60 handsets that fulfill this. But alas, as is typical of our carriers, no one's offering decent data speeds. I only wish the Kyocera 7135 was priced at 15000 (with its limitattions, as compared to the Treo 650)and the 6255 at about 8000. I think thats how much they are worth in teh open market, If I may be a little generous with the prices. Still looking for a great handset solution with fast enough data access. pretty happy with nokia 6255 on RIM data speeds, but handset is unexciting at that price point.