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HP will 'discontinue operations for webOS devices', may spin off Personal Systems Group

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And just like that, Palm's baby was abandoned. Among the "other announcements" in today's press release about the potential spinoff of its entire Personal Systems group (PCs, mobile devices, storage) is a note that the webOS ecosystem HP snagged for $1.2 billion a year ago is already being ditched.

"In addition, HP reported that it plans to announce that it will discontinue operations for webOS devices, specifically the TouchPad and webOS phones. HP will continue to explore options to optimize the value of webOS software going forward.
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Among slightly lowered estimates for its 2011 revenue, HP confirms it's in talks with Autonomy Corporation plc about a "possible offer" for the company. It's clear that a separation of HP the services / software company and HP the hardware manufacturer leaves no room in the lifeboat for the Pre andTouchPad family, but what happens next? We're sure there will be more pointed questions about what "optimizing the value of webOS software going forward" means -- we vote for a quickie sale to one of Google's disgruntled hardware partners or better yet, opening it up for some community hackery -- on the conference call scheduled for 5 p.m. Eastern.

Update: HP CEO Leo Apotheker confirmed on the company's earnings call late this afternoon that the Autonomy acquisition is considerably further along than just a "possible offer," and that it's expected to be completed by the end of 2011. He also made it clear that any possible spin-off of the PC business won't happen soon, and said that the company will take 12 to 18 months to consider its options, further adding that he is "taking ownership" of all of these decisions. As for webOS, Apotheker expectedly offered few specifics, but suggested that just about all options, including licensing, remain on the table.

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Palm, Symbian :o Android should be hanged for the murders it is committing...

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HP will continue to explore options to optimize the value of webOS software going forward."[/indent]

Who is going to built webos devices with no application support ? Its an end.. Only thing HP can sell is Palm's patent..

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Palm, Symbian :o Android should be hanged for the murders it is committing...

True Sir Ji Please hang Android - innocent iOS will stay

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what is HP up to? there was pressure to spin off profit making, printer business as separate entity few years back. now it is doing opposite. it has compaq and palm in its stable but want o hive off PC, storage and Palm OS. what about servers? HP has suffered a lot since Oracle started bundling Sun servers with database. entire HP's Xdata line suffered.

if they were not interested in Palm then why they go it. Now definitely they will sale it loss along with PC business.

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HP is at the top of the PC market after take over Compaq? Why this move???? Probably it's going the IBM way.

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Come on HP Android and WP7 is only way embrace it ! and sell those Patents Portfolio to raise the money !

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HP should have done CHARITY instead of buying WebOS...

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I'm really sad that WebOS had to meet this fate :( It will go down in history as the mobile OS that was technically capable, or even superior, but just couldn't find the right combination of vision, hardware, and marketing to capture any interest in the market.

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HP tested webOS on an iPad. It ran over twice as fast as the TouchPad.

HP’s WebOS team almost certainly had an idea that the company’s new tablet, the TouchPad, had very little chance of challenging Apple’s dominance in the tablet market, as the company’s webOS operating system was running “over twice as fast†on its rival’s iPad 2 tablet, a source close to the subject revealed to The Next Web.

More: http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/08/19/hp-tested-webos-on-an-ipad-it-ran-over-twice-as-fast/

Now why they did not tested on android device!!!!

Is it b'cause iPad is iPad

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And I had saved up about 20 grands to buy a Pre 3! (of course, after reading reviews :P). Thank God I did'nt take the plunge.

Will now hold off till Sprint release the Epic 2 :D

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^^^

Your damage wont be 20 grands. Looking at TP's price drop which HP is going to do..

They have Pre3 in production. Infact, ATT has just canceled the order for all the Pre3.. So they will soon liquidate the stock..

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Guys only someone with more money than sense will buy Pre 3 / Veer / Touchpad now since it is highly unlikely that Hp will continue to support them. With unsupported software, the errors that you will definitely face in the course, will never be fixed.

Hp is trying to clear out their inventory by offering such huge discounts. But is it worth the 99$? I think I'd rather spend 99$ elsewhere ;)

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Guys only someone with more money than sense will buy Pre 3 / Veer / Touchpad now since it is highly unlikely that Hp will continue to support them. With unsupported software, the errors that you will definitely face in the course, will never be fixed.

Hp is trying to clear out their inventory by offering such huge discounts. But is it worth the 99$? I think I'd rather spend 99$ elsewhere ;)

$99 is worth for the hardware alone.

I am confused by the PC business hive off though, they are the market leaders so what is happening.

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Samsung CEO, “We Don’t Want HP’s Garbage” — Or Something Like That.. >> http://techcrunch.co...28TechCrunch%29

The future of webOS is a little less uncertain now that Samsung’s CEO, Choi Gee Sung, grabbed rumors of buying HP’s webOS business by the cuff, laughed in its face and then coldly stabbed the rumor in the heart.

Choi, in response to a reporter’s question about the recent analyst report, stated, “It’s not right that acquiring an operating system is becoming a fashion,” and that Samsung would “never” pursue such a deal.

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HP has gone crazy...... Their support is becoming worst day by day.... & management is just keep on acquiring new companies without giving any hikes to their employees..... wht a shame.....

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All Things Digital reports that upwards of 525 employees at HP's Palm division are slated to lose their jobs in the near future, as part of a layoff process that began this week.

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This is what happens when a top guy does not know ABC of hardware and what magic hardware alongwith OS can do. CEO is from SAP tht never understood power of osand always thought only software can do magic. Classic example of wrong guy at right position.

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HP Reeling Accelerates CEO Succession Crisis

Hewlett-Packard Co. (HPQ), weighing the ouster of Chief Executive Officer Leo Apotheker, may struggle to find a new leader who can revive the ailing computer maker after 11 months of strategy shifts and slashed forecasts.

Hewlett-Packard’s board plans to consider firing Apotheker, two people familiar with the matter said yesterday. It may appoint former EBay Inc. (EBAY) CEO Meg Whitman, a Hewlett-Packard director, to serve as an interim leader, said one of the people. The stock had plunged 47 percent on his watch as of Sept. 20, the worst performance in the Dow Jones Industrial Average.

“It’s not going to be easy,” said Michael Mullaney, who helps manage $9.5 billion, including Hewlett-Packard shares, at Fiduciary Trust in Boston. “They have to go back and redefine what they want to be as a company, go back to the drawing board.”

Apotheker’s ouster would leave the board looking for a leader who can do a better job helping Hewlett-Packard weather a personal-computer slump while pushing further into the market for products that deliver computing services over the Web. CEO candidates may also includeTodd Bradley, who runs Hewlett- Packard’s PC unit, and David Donatelli, head of the business in charge of servers, storage and networking, said Jayson Noland, an analyst at Robert W. Baird & Co. in San Francisco.

Other possible candidates that would make sense include Gary Moore, chief operating officer of Cisco Systems Inc., or Steve Mills, who runs the software unit at International Business Machines Corp., said Shaw Wu, an analyst at Sterne Agee & Leach Inc. in San Francisco.

Board Discussions

Hewlett-Packard directors met yesterday in committees and will gather today as a full board, according to a person close to the situation. Directors are concerned about the stock price and its lack of improvement under Apotheker’s leadership, the person said. Some top Hewlett-Packard executives also opposed the acquisition of Autonomy Corp., a deal pushed by Apotheker, according to the person.

Hewlett-Packard, based in Palo Alto, California, jumped $1.51, or 6.7 percent, to $23.98 yesterday on the New York Stock Exchange after Bloomberg reported the possible management change. The stock is still down 44 percent since Apotheker, 58, became CEO on Nov. 1, compared with the 1.5 percent decline in the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index.

A new CEO would be Hewlett-Packard’s seventh leader since 1999, when Carly Fiorina took over from Lewis Platt. Fiorina departed in 2005 and was replaced on an interim basis by Robert Wayman, until the company named Mark Hurd to the top job. After Hurd resigned, Cathie Lesjaktook the reins temporarily until Apotheker came aboard.

PC Options

In addition to discussing Apotheker’s future, the board is reconsidering a proposal to spin off the PC business, a person familiar with the matter said. Apotheker, the former CEO of German software maker SAP AG, said the company was exploring options for that unit on Aug. 18.

The same day, Hewlett-Packard agreed to buy software maker Autonomy for $10.3 billion. The company also said it was discontinuing products running its WebOS mobile software, including smartphones and tablets -- less than six months after saying it planned to put the operating system on every Hewlett- Packard computer. Shares slumped after the announcements on concerns that Hewlett-Packard was paying too much for the acquisition and the strategic changes showed a lack of deliberation.

Corporate Focus

With the Autonomy purchase and shift in focus, Apotheker was pursuing a plan to lessen the company’s reliance on lower- margin consumer products and concentrate on more-profitable corporate businesses such as servers, software and network services. Any successor to Apotheker will need to do a better job communicating the company’s vision to shareholders, said Tony Ursillo, an analyst at Loomis Sayles & Co. in Boston, which owns Hewlett-Packard shares.

“Leo’s tenure as CEO has been disastrous,” Ursillo said.

Under one scenario, the board may appoint Whitman until a permanent candidate emerges, according to a person with knowledge of the board’s thinking.

Whitman, 55, has been a Hewlett-Packard director since January, two months after she lost a bid to become governor of California. Before entering politics, Whitman spent 10 years at the helm of EBay, the world’s largest online marketplace, and established a career at consumer-related companies.

Whitman’s Consumer Expertise

For Hewlett-Packard, which is focusing on selling to businesses, Whitman is probably not the right person for the long-term, said Dana Stalder, a partner at venture capital firm Matrix Partners in Palo Alto, California.

“It’s not clear to me that someone who spent 30 years in the consumer space is the right person for an enterprise technology company,” said Stalder, who worked under Whitman for seven years at EBay. “HP is increasingly becoming an enterprise company, given the focus on enterprise software and services.”

Sales in Hewlett-Packard’s technology solutions group, which includes services, software and enterprise storage and servers, rose 14 percent in the fiscal third quarter to $15.9 billion. By contrast, revenue in the business that comprises notebooks and PCs fell 3.3 percent to $9.59 billion.

Donatelli, executive vice president of the enterprise business, joined Hewlett-Packard in 2009 after 22 years at EMC Corp., the world’s biggest maker of storage computers. Sterne Agee’s Wu, along with Noland from Baird, said Donatelli may be a candidate for the top job.

Challenging IBM, Oracle

The company needs a leader who can mount a challenge to the biggest providers of technology for corporations, such as IBM, Oracle Corp. and Cisco, Wu said.

“They basically need a turnaround specialist,” Wu said. “It’s not going to be an easy role, whoever it is. Autonomy and the PC business -- they’ve got to figure out what to do there because not everyone thinks those are necessarily the right moves.”

Bradley, who runs the PC business, said last month that he would like to oversee the unit if it’s spun out as a separate company. Bradley, 52, came to Hewlett-Packard in 2005 from PalmOne Inc., where he spent four years.

“I’m very focused on continuing to work with the team of people that have been so successful at making this the largest and most profitable PC company in the world,” Bradley said in an Aug. 23 interview on “Bloomberg West.”

As much as anything, Hewlett-Packard has to find an executive who can help the company get past a series of embarrassments that date back to a boardroom spying scandal in 2006 and continued through last year, when former CEO Hurd quit amid sexual-harassment allegations.

“It’s been really hard to watch what seems to be a company that’s lost its way,” said Leslie Berlin, project historian of Silicon Valley Archives at Stanford University. “The boardroom fights, the job cuts -- it’s almost unrecognizable from the Hewlett-Packard that was once the star attraction in the Valley.”

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HP gives CEO Leo Apotheker the boot following rampant speculation on his future with the company, Former Ebay CEO Meg Whitman takes over the top spot.

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Report: HP Puts WebOS On the Auction Block

Hewlett-Packard is in the market to sell its WebOS operating system for "hundreds of millions of dollars," according to a report.

Reuters reported late Monday that it had four sources confirming the report, but didn't say if they were at HP.

Reuters did not name any potential suitors, although it did say that single source had told the wire that Oracle might be interested as a potential suitor. Many more companies saw the WebOS division as attractive, if only because of the division's patents.

HP declined to comment. "We have no new comment with the Reuters report," an HP spokeswoman said. "We have said all along 'we are exploring ways to optimize the webOS software'. Nothing has changed."

A sale would contradict an

earlier report by The Guardian that the WebOS unit could be shut down instead of being sold off.

HP acquired smartphone and PDA maker Palm and its Palm OS mobile operating system under the auspices of then-CEO Mark Hurd, who planned to integrate the renamed webOS across a slew of HP products to tie the computing giant's vast array of servers, PCs, mobile devices, printers, and other hardware products together to better offer total HP solutions to its business customers.

On the consumer end of things, HP built its short-lived TouchPad tablet around webOS, releasing that device this past July during the term of Hurd's successor, Leo Apotheker, before

announcing the end of its TouchPad line less than two months later due to poor sales. That device quickly became a bestseller after HP cut the price in a last-minute fire sale. Since then, HP has offered bundles to rid itself of TouchPad inventory, although ordering a new batch.

Apotheker, ousted for bungling the TouchPad and other mistakes perceived to have led to disappointing quarterly performances during his tenure, said before his departure that in addition to ending the TouchPad, HP was considering putting its entire billion-dollar Personal Systems Group (PSG) on the block as well in its effort to transition towards a more services-and-software-oriented portfolio.

Former eBay CEO and one-time California gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman

took over for Apotheker last month. Whitman has for all intents and purposes rescinded HP's offer to put the PC business on the block.

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HP also confirmed that they will make webos tablets. However, there is not going to be any webos smartphone from HP.

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http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/9/2624209/meg-whitman-marc-andreessen-web-os-open-source-interview

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