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The response from Mukesh's camp doesn't sound good, this was the statement given by them: While Anil Ambani had been repeatedly proclaiming that Mukesh had rebuffed him at every attempt to talk peace over the past three-odd years, the RIL statement says this is a lie, in effect.

Yes, it is launched all over India: http://www.rimweb.in/forums/index.php?showtopic=21261 Closing topic as this offer is irrelevant now.

v 3.0.4 is a maintenance release which is almost entirely bug fixes, 202 bugs were reported to be fixed. There was 1 new feature and that is "Rich Text Editor" support for Safari and Chrome browsers (IE and FF are already supported). The next release will be v 3.1 which should have some new features along with the new skins. The side bar windows on the forum index page are "plugins" that were added/enabled and not part of the actual update.

How much did it cost for them?

Per-second billing not mandatory: TRAI 9 Oct 2009, 0117 hrs IST Economic Times Telecom operators would be free to offer various tariff plans to their subscribers, including the per-second billing scheme, and they would also be free to fix the tariff per second, telecom regulator TRAI said on Thursday. This would come as a relief to the telecom operators who would have taken a hit on their revenues, if the per-second-billing model was to become mandatory, as telcos are already facing low revenues per subscriber. Under this model, if a telco were to offer a tariff plan that provided calls at 60 paise per minute, and if the customer were to speak only for 20 seconds, he or she will be charged only 20 paise for the call. “We are not looking at mandating per-second billing for the operators. We would float a consultation paper on it and decide only if the industry sees benefits in the system,” Trai chairman JS Sarma said. The regulator plans to issue a consultation paper by the end of this year. “Operators can offer it along with other plans. It does not mean we will fix the tariff. When we make recommendation on this issue, we will keep in view the interest of operators as well as consumers,” Mr Sarma added. Earlier, the regulator had said that it plans to ask operators to charge customers on a per-second basis so that they can enjoy the benefit of paying only for their usage. The Indian telecom operators, who are already experiencing low revenue growth, expressed concerns over the sustainability of future revenue growth in a highly-competitive marketplace. Currently, majority of the operators charge for the full minute, irrespective of whether the call lasts the whole minute. The per-second-billing model is being followed by Tata DoCoMo and new entrant Sistema Shyam.

Verbatim transcript of Anil Sardana’s exclusive interview on CNBC-TV18 Thursday, October 08, 2009 Watch Video Q: This [per-second billing] move of your company. How do you see it playing out? Do you think that you are going to see a contraction of margins for sometime but things will play out? What kind of a timetable are you looking at in terms of dipping of margins and their final compensation by improved revenues? A: This is something that is very well thought through innovation that we brought to the customer. It has been brought in because there was tremendous amount of cluster that the customer was seeing and there was tremendous confusion for customer to choose their package before every month starts in terms of which offer the best rate for local calls, which offer is the best rate for STD or for SMS. We said: let’s bring something that is true to our value system, which is relevant and also transparent and that’s how this whole concept of pay per use was brought in. So therefore I guess today everybody is trying to talk about pay per second but this is a part of the larger goal that we set for ourselves that we will only work on pay per use as a part of our Tata DOCOMO launches. The reason why pay per second was done was to, simply put, make sure people don’t pay for call drops, for what they haven’t used and we have got better average revenue per user (ARPU) that incrementally any new other operator is able to get. Because there is perhaps a fear that one is charging for something that is not due to us — if some operators believe that the calls are being charged for what is not due to them and the customer is overpaying because the customer is ignorant about what it is being paid for, that could cause tremendous backlashes to some. But in whole, sincerity and the fact that this is an innovation, which is a win for a customer should be actually treated as a great innovation. Q: In CDMA too, you had plan of Rs 1 per call, in case of STD Rs 3 per call, whatever the duration of the call. There is some criticism that that was mainly because you had high unutilised bandwidth and also capacity in your code division multiple access (CDMA) network. Could you respond to that? A: I guess the criticism has to be the job of people who cannot match you. The fact was that this was based on the fact that for last four quarters continuously, TRAI rates our CDMA network to be the best in India. When it was treated and called to be the best, the only way that it can transactionally be brought in front of the customer is to make sure that the length of call could be longer. If there is call drops in the other networks how could they make pay per call concept. So today we have seen that since the time we have launched pay per call, the call duration on an average has stayed between 2.5 to 3.2 minutes. So if it is that same concept as what the calls are normally, there it makes great sense to have a local call at Rs 1 and STD call at Rs 3. The only point that we have taken away from customer is the fear of time inline with what we talk about pay per use on other side. But most important part is how you transact a good network with the customer? You can transact a good network quality with the customer only through means and which you actually prove to the customer that you can make a lengthy call. Q: What I want to know is that is this more profit making. I am sure that it would be making losses right now. Do you think volumes will compensate for that? A: You did not see the analysis of several of the analysts who came back and said this is hugely profit making. The effective rate of this is better than the effective rate that we had before. Q: You will make margins in this — you will make good profit margins in this? A: Absolutely we make margins and we make effective rate, which is better than the effective rate that you make in anything like 60-75 paise per call. Q: You are confident of cutting losses in the coming year i.e. in the current year FY10? A: We are no more in the loss paradigm. We are strongly EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) positive, we are cash positive. Those times have already gone. Q: There is a market buzz that there is a proposal to merge Tata Teleservices Ltd (TTSL) and Tata Teleservices (Maharashtra) Ltd (TTML) via Quippo Telecom, any truth to that, if you could comment on that? A: We have already merged Quippo Telecom’s towers into our company called Wireless Tata Tele Info Services Ltd (WTTIL). TTML and TTSL are two different entities, these are wireless operators and TTML is a listed company, so I don’t want to comment on that aspect. Q: There is also buzz on Quippo Telecom bidding for Aircel’s tower operations, any progress on that? A: WTTIL and Quippo Telecom combined, which is what WTTIL is now, have been qualified for the Aircel towers and we are certainly looking at that.

I've asked the opinion of a person who has used BB 8830, Bold and Tour... he says Tour is just too good above the rest.

Email me, I have to check in PC and send you. No, depends on how you configure it. Make sure that you have a master password to lock it, else someone using your PC will be able to get all your logins!!!

They have a pre-booking offer from today: Get 2 months BlackBerry Internet Service on CDMA network for free if you pre-book between October 7th to October 31st! GSM version is coming soon. Handset cost is Rs.27,990 and will be available from October 12, 2009

I use RoboForm, been using it for years. It also has "sync" feature which lets you use it in different computers.

thanks! BTW received your PM

wow just noticed that, thanks! hmmmm my PM inbox isn't full, what did it show when you sent the PM?

Good suggestion indeed, I have increased it to 10 now!

Yes please! For reference this is how to run a trace route command: http://www.surmunity.com/search-me/27097-tutorial-traceroute-windows-xp.html Please include your IP address also in your PM which you can check using www.whatismyip.com

It's official, 3G auction will be late again 6 Oct 2009, 0446 hrs IST Economic Times Telecom minister A Raja on Monday said the auction of airwaves to offer third-generation mobile services will be concluded by the end of the financial year, making it clear that the government will miss the December 7 date. Talking to reporters on the sidelines of the ITU world summit here, Mr Raja also said various foreign companies have expressed interest in participating in the 3G auctions that will "generate at least Rs 25,000 crore of revenue for the Indian government". ET reported in its edition on Monday that the 3G auctions, which will pave way for streaming video and high-speed Internet on mobiles, may not be held on December 7 as was announced by the department of telecom (DoT) last month. Mr Raja also confirmed an earlier ET report that the successful 3G bidders will also be allotted 2G airwaves. "The successful 3G bidder will be issued a universal access service licence (UASL)," he said, adding that they will be allocated 2G spectrum "as and when it is available". This was a major demand of foreign telecom companies looking to take part in the 3G auction that has been delayed several times since 2007 due to reasons ranging from infighting between ministries to the failure of the government and telecom regulator TRAI to agree on terms of the auctions. DoT was slated to release the information memorandum (IM) that contains all the details of the auction including availability of radio frequencies across circles, policy changes, the rules of the auction and mode of payment among several other issues to all potential bidders by September 29, but failed to do so. According to officials, DoT failed to release the IM as it is yet to map out the availability of 3G airwaves across most circles with the armed forces refusing to adhere to the timelines to vacate the airwaves. With the IM yet to be released, the October 8 deadline for submission of questions for the pre-bid conference will also be postponed along with all other timelines such as those for submission of bids and mock auctions. All this makes December 7 auction extremely unlikely. Mr Raja knows it as well as anybody else.

Right, it isn't about social networking. Its Orkut for social networking as far as Google is concerned. An excerpt from O'Rielly's Google Wave book...

It isn't visible for the mods/admins either. It can be found out by running SQL commands on the database only.

Business Wire India Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:42 AM IST (06:12 AM GMT) SK C&C India (CEO Kim Shin Bae, www.skcc.com), an affiliate company of SK Group, a Fortune 100 conglomerate, and Reliance Communications has entered into a partnership agreement on September 22nd 2009 with Reliance Communication (RCOM) to facilitate the roll-out of network and services on next generation 3G/4G platform. Reliance will utilize the knowledge and expertise of SK C&C, a systems service provider to SK Telecom, to build IP backbone network to process voice communication and data and develop plans to optimize the design of base stations for efficient linkage. Under this agreement, Reliance will gain to know-how and knowledge of the “best practice” at SK Telecom to enhance the quality of its services by building a high-capacity, integrated (wireless and wire line) and convergent (voice, data and video) digital network for 3G Network and WiMax. Founded in 1953, SK Group is the third largest conglomerate in Korea with diverse interests in Information and Communication, Energy and Trading and Engineering sectors. SK Telecom is regarded among the top MNOs in the world in terms of advanced technology and services that it offers to its customers. SK Telecom, with a 50% plus market share in Korea and SK C&C became the first in the world to succeed in commercializing CDMA and in 2002, and tie first in the world to deploy 3G services based on CDMA. Recently it also introduced a much more advanced version of mobile telemetric services where mobile communication is combined into automobiles to provide road guidance services, location tracking as well as remote car checkup and control services, mobile linked entertainment service. Commenting on the signing of this agreement, Mr. Manish Prakash, Head of International Business at SK C&C (Korea) commented “At SK we are excited about this partnership with Reliance ADA Group and looking to build a deeper relationship for a wide range of cooperation in areas of technology and operations in the 3G environment. This agreement is a significant step in that direction.” Senior executives at Reliance are highly optimistic of the new partnership and believe that it shall be the stepping stone to a long standing relationship. A new world of communication will unfold where mobile phone users will be able to chat with their friends in remote places while looking at their faces, and also watch movies, music videos, and use the Internet to transfer money through mobile banking service. 3G mobile communication uses 2 giga hertz waves with transmission speed ranging from 128Kbps to 2Mbps enabling the users to exchange moving pictures. Mobile phone users, who had only been able to talk on the phone, will be able to see the faces of the ones they talk to. Also, various video contents in color such as music video, Internet broadcasting, comics, and news will be provided in real time. About SK C&C and SK Group SK C&C, an affiliate of SK Group recording $1billion sales last year, is a total IT service company providing consulting services, system installation, IT outsourcing and future Ubiquitous technologies and services. SK Group (FY’08 Revenue: $83.5 billion), a Fortune 100 conglomerate, is engaged in a wide range of business areas including IT, mobile communication, energy, engineering and chemical. In particular, SK Group, which ranks number 3 in the business world in Korea, shows very similar growth path as that of Reliance Group. SK Group was founded in 1953 under the name of Sunkyong Textile Limited and expanded business to petrochemical, refined oil and gas, completing the vertical integration and in 1994 jumped into mobile telecommunication, communication, bioscience, and entertainment business areas. In 2007, SK C&C established its subsidiary, SK C&C India, to pursue development of various telecommunication VAS models based on advanced mobile communication services. Its mission will also include exploring global markets such as in US and Europe through collaborating with IT services companies in India in the mobile communication and outsourcing sector.

Its great that Microsoft is offering the service for free and I hope it will be bundled by default with Windows 7. If previous versions of Windows had a free bundled antivirus software that can be updated online then there wouldn't have been so many zombie PCs which are a great threat to the internet.

Tata DoCoMo marks entry in North India with Haryana launch 29 Sep 2009 Telecom Tiger Tata DoCoMo which last month registered the highest monthly additions for any operator in India mainly due to its competitively priced per second pricing model, today set its foot in the Northern state of Haryana. As a formal launch of the services, Tata DoCoMo MD, Anil Sardana called Haryana CM, Bhupinder Singh Hooda. Tata DoCoMo will cover 386 towns as well as cities and 1,750 villages in Haryana. The network will also be available across 1,800 km long highways and 400 km of Rail network. Subsequent to receipt of spectrum, coverage will also be provided to districts of Fatehbad and Sirsa. Mr Ratan Tata, Chairman, Tata Sons, said over a message, “The value proposition offered by TATA-DOCOMO is a unique and revolutionary idea which symbolizes the spirit of innovation and inventive genius. This launch is truly a moment of triumph for the consumer. The launch of pay-per-use, per-second concept offered by TATA-DOCOMO will create a paradigm shift in the overall telecom experience for the customer and provide a service that is refreshingly different.” “It is a privilege to be fulfilling that promise in the Haryana—where subscribers are discerning and seek transparency, innovation and differentiation. Our partnership with NTT DOCOMO will help us provide our subscribers with tremendous technological and service differentiation. Keeping in view the century of trust associated with the House of Tata, we are launching the concept of fare being fair. From today, TATA DOCOMO subscribers in Haryana will be able to enjoy the benefits of pay-as-you-use,” said Sardana. In a video-address, Mr Toshinari Kunieda, Senior Vice-President and Managing Director, Global Business Division, NTT DOCOMO, said, “NTT DOCOMO has provided technical inputs to make the TATA DOCOMO GSM network world-class. Progressively, NTT DOCOMO shall bring to India the various products and services that we offer in Japan and many other countries—such as i-modeTM, Location-based Services (LBS) and mobile payment—and give TATA DOCOMO customers a flavor of tomorrow. TTSL and NTT DOCOMO are closely engaged in integrating technology, value-added services, products and applications through the mechanism of Business and Technology Cooperation Committee (BTCC). This should see TATA DOCOMO change the way India communicates.”

The website was infected when I checked more than a month ago but it wasn't on the day when this topic was posted. I think they got relisted by StopBadware.org (used by Google/Mozilla) now, so the browser may have downloaded the malwares to your PC if you accessed the website earlier and don't have anti-virus software. If you don't have VERY GOOD EVDO signals at your place then yes don't go for it. Since Sadik has contacts with the operators of Nivyah he may be able to ask someone to check the feasibility in your area. Check with him.

Available for New Delhi/NCR circle only, at least for now.

I guess Sadik uses it though he has a "corporate" connection from them.

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