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Reliance says no to number portability NEW DELHI: Reliance has spoken out against the introduction of mobile number portability (MNP), which allows cellular subscribers to change their service provider but retain the same number. In response to the consultation paper on MNP, floated by telecom regulator Trai in July, Reliance has said that investments and network interconnect arrangements, required for putting in place such a system, would far outweigh the benefits of MNP. Reliance, which operates CDMA-based services across the country, has argued that there is enough competition in the Indian cellular telephony market, and customers can easily change operators. There are about 4-7 operators in various telecom circles the country is divided into, whereas in other parts of the world there are not more than 3-5 operators. Besides, the Arpu (average revenue per user) is less than Rs 390 ($10), lowest in the world. "The fundamental reasons -- both technical and economic -- for introducing mobile number portability do not exist in our country yet," Reliance said in its response. It has, however, said that in the landline sector the competition was very limited, with BSNL having 37.25 million (78%) subscribers, out of a total base of 47.8 million. "So, if Trai and government feel it necessary to introduce number portability, it/they should start with fixed number portability."

Retain numbers, ask pvt fixed line cos NEW DELHI: Private fixed line telecom operators have asked the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (Trai) to implement number portability in the segment. Under number portability, a subscriber can retain his/her number even while switching to a new service provider. Trai is currently working on bringing number portability in mobile telephone services. “The reason why portability is needed in fixed services is that there is hardly any competition in the fixed line segment since incumbents account for nearly 80% of the market share,” said the Association of Unified Telecom Service Providers of India (AUTSPI) in a letter to the Trai. “The effort should be to introduce mobile number portability only after it is introduced in the fixed line segment. This is the practice globally. Or the otherwise introduce portability simultaneously for both mobile and fixed line sectors,” said AUTSPI. AUTSPI has also said that the number portability will require additional investments by all the operators to augment networks, create data bases, implement and sustain new routing and switching arrangements. As the Indian telecom market is expanding fast, it may not be a good idea to make huge investments in such activities. “Today, when the resources and efforts of the telecom industry are directed towards increasing telecom penetration, the need of the hour should be to make telecom services more affordable rather than increasing costs,” said AUTSPI. It has also expressed apprehensions that the change in number portability may require changes in the fundamental plans in routing, transmission, and number plans. This may even require changes in the licensing regime. TEC, a body under DoT that does technological validation and specifies standards, had earlier opposed number portability. In a note to the telecom commission, TEC said the time is not ripe for number portability as it would increase the cost of a call. There are two methods of implementing number portability. One, is call forwarding, a relatively crude method. Another is implementing it through intelligent networks where software plays a major role in identifying and routing calls. Now, the important issue is who will share the cost of additional network. The regulator will make his decision after getting the response from all the stake holders. Source: The Economic Times

the happiest news and a shock to Barbad Sanchar Nigam Lutera..I hope that Both Sinhas' will have a heart attack after hearing this BUT 2009...Buuuhuuuuuuu!

but guys i have seen one thing in this battle...i dont know what the hell does is AUSPI is for..That TV ramchandaran always starts slamming the cdma operators ..and the auspi has no BLUDDY media face or something like that..i think the AUSPI need to come out and start Reorganising the CDMA operators.....like TATA..and RELIANCE and start their own media face..... HEy auspi member if yoiu are reading this.......Thgen Concentrate on what i had written

but guys its costly a lot..thru webworlds its almost Rs 975/- per 15MIN.......aint it costly......

Guys a russian investor has been looking to acquire Reliance Telecom...... Is ot just a speculati9on or what

t’s A War Of SPECTRUM As spectrum is scarce, the camp that gets more will grow & also limit the other’s expansion K Yatish Rajawat MUMBAI 19 SEPTEMBER WHEN things get tough and the lobbyist can’t get his way, technology comes to the rescue. Technology helps him obfuscate facts, twist numbers and figures and shift the debate in anybody’s favour. Successful lobbyists have done this over years, hoodwinking courts, government and bureaucrats the world over. Currently, two opposing users of technology are using every trick in the book to wrest what can be called a national resource from the government. Radio frequency spectrum is a national resource which is limited, and how the government uses it will determine how much teledensity is reached through the wireless route in India. Now, the two lobbies — CDMA and GSM telephone network operators — are at loggerheads to see which camp gains the most. The spectrum is limited, and determines the capacity of operators to serve more subscribers. The camp which succeeds and is able to get more spectrum, will not only be able to grow but will be able to limit the future expansion of the other camp in the long run. The GSM lobby says it has been using spectrum more efficiently as it has more cell sites, so if the government wants to meet its target of teledensity it should allot further spectrum to GSM operators. The CDMA lobby, which started this debate, got spectrum allotted by stating that their technology is a much more efficient user of the spectrum. The reality lies somewhere in between. First of all, number of cell sites or the lack of them is not a direct reflection of the efficiency of use of spectrum, as the GSM operators would like to propound. Both technologies use the spectrum in different manners, moreover their cell sites and the number of subscribers they serve also varies. Second, CDMA is not necessarily the most efficient user of spectrum, its efficiency is related to topography and peaks and erodes with rising subscriber base. Code Division Multiplex Access (CDMA) technology which means that it is a broadcast technology which is encrypted. The broadcast can only be decoded by the user for whom it is intended. As CDMA uses a broadcast over the whole spectrum allotted to it, it is perceived to be a more efficient user of the spectrum, says Dr Eshawar Pittampalli, Bell Laboratory Research fellow. Now because the signal is coded for each subscriber, the number of subscribers that each cell site in CDMA supports is generally larger, which gives rise to the claim that it is the more efficient user of the spectrum. In CDMA, the broadcast from the base station is not limited by distance and loses its power only with natural barriers or other radio interference. GSM base station at the cell sites use only a portion of the spectrum allotted to them and can cover a limited distance. When the number of subscribers increases in a geographic area, GSM operators increases the number of cell sites. To avoid interference among the cell sites it limits the distance each one covers. GSM operators can keep increasing the number of cell sites as long as they don’t create interference with each other. As it is able to limit the distance covered and uses only a portion of the spectrum it has far greater flexibility and can use larger number of cell sites in a single location. When the number of subscribers go up for a CDMA operator in a geographical location, he can also increase the number of cell sites. The biggest limitation in increasing cell sites for a CDMA operator is interference with other cell sites. As CDMA uses broadcast and is not limited by distance, and he cannot alter the distance of its base station he cannot add as many cell sites as a GSM operator. CDMA operators after they reach saturation in an area cannot always grow by adding another cell site. The peak number of cell sites and subscribers is reached faster by a CDMA operator, the only way left from him is to get additional frequency in the spectrum allotted. Now, if beyond a point a CDMA operator cannot grow if he does not get spectrum. And if he is allotted that spectrum it is taking away growth from the GSM operator, the government needs to move beyond technology. Other countries’ experience with spectrum has been more technology neutral and sometimes tilted in favour of earning maximum capital out of it. In India, this issue has never been raised to that level. Micromanagement of the spectrum allotment harks back to license raj of control for capacity expansion. An auction of the spectrum frequency will determine the right price.

Guys The Real War has started Now..Listen..Read what The BIG PPL hav 2 say abt spectrumm

China Mobile too makes a call on Reliance Telecom ADAE STUDYING PROPOSAL, TO TAKE DECISION AFTER VALUATION CHINA Mobile (Hong Kong) Ltd, the world’s largest mobile phone company by subscriber base, has offered to buy Reliance Telecom. It has become the second company after Russia’s AFK Sistema to show interest in the Anil Ambani-promoted company. China Mobile’s executive director and vicepresident Li Yue met senior officials of the ADAE group last week to discuss a possible deal. This comes just days after Sistema chairman Evgeny Novitsky’s meeting in the ADAE group’s Mumbai offices where he showed a similar interest. An Anil Ambani group spokesperson declined comment on the development. But industry sources said the group officials are evaluating the proposal and will take a final decision based on the valuation. Reliance Telecom provides mobile services based on the GSM platform in West Bengal, Kolkata, Bihar, Assam, the Northeast, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa and Himachal Pradesh. It has a subscriber base of about 1.5 million and a market share of 3.16% as of August 2005. RTL was the undivided Reliance group’s first foray into telecom back in 1995. China Mobile is also mainland’s leading mobile phone company. As of July 2005, it boasted 227 million subscribers, of which about 166 million were prepaid. It has been one of Greater China’s rapidly growing companies and in the first half ended June 2005 posted a 41.1% growth in subscribers, a 32.5% rise in revenue and a 27.7% jump in net profit. RTL is owned 65% by ADAE group and 35% by the special purpose vehicle Reliance Communication Ventures.The interest shown by both China Mobile and Sistema highlights the growing importance of India’s GSM-based mobile telephony market, which last year grew 55%. ------------------------------------------------------------ Whats That Guys Everybody is Ringing in For Reliance Telecom....i think that this is now the only option left with the Foreign Investors to invest in the left alone GSM company..aint it

yes thats a good option

whatever the handsets shd be value for money and can easily compete with the existing gsm handsets such as nokia 6600...and alll

welcome this great decision by Lil Ambani...hope the costs are also suitable to the wallets...

what the hELL does VSNL have ...just **** VSNL....and the TATA's.......

has it been launched thru RIM

Nokia in talks with Reliance: Nokia is talking to operators in India, including Reliance, for migrating them to WCDMA technology. WCDMA is a variant of GSM while Reliance offers services on both GSM and CDMA. PTI But boss where is it written that they are converting CDMA to wCDMa...cant they convert GSM to wCDMA

Guys frm where d u have all these info to earlier....... neways we all expect a huge rollover of handsets by reliance and arent there any news of MOTO....again..wehat abt the mou and all

Yhanx a lotta guys...and happy bday Sudhir....

i also tyhink that offloading some stake would be a good option..it will surely pump xome money in Lil Ambani's Pocket

Its Official Now>>>>>In Economic Times WILL HE? WON’T HE? Sistema in talks to buy Reliance GSM biz R Sriram MUMBAI 8 SEPTEMBER RUSSIANconglomerate AFK Sistema has approached the Anil Dhirubhai Ambani (ADAE) group with a proposal to buy Reliance Telecom, the first telecom company promoted by the younger Ambani way back in 1995. Industry sources told ET that Evgeny Novitsky, Sistema’s chairman of the board, visited Mumbai a few days ago with a team to meet ADAE officials for a possible deal. It is not known if the ADAE group is interested in selling its stake in RTL which provides cellular services to about 1.5 million consumers in central and eastern India on the GSM platform. An ADAE group spokesman declined to comment. But industry sources said that a meeting did take place between officials from both groups and that Sistema, which made a bid to buy into Chennai-based mobile service operator Aircel some time ago, is very keen on entering India. The Russian group had signed a non-binding agreement with Aircel, owned by C Sivasankaran, to buy up to 49% in a deal valued at $450 million some time earlier this year. That memorandum of understanding lapsed and it is not known if the two groups have resumed talks later. Industry sources said the company could be valued at close to $1billion due to its over one million subscriber base and the fact that there is very little debt in the company. RTL provides cellular services in Kolkata, West Bengal, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Assam, the Northeast, Himachal Pradesh and Bihar. The company’s subscriber base jumped 22% in April-June, higher than the 9% national cellular industry growth rate. Source ET

I Will stick Onto Reliance India Mobile and My plan will be 299ZR

Guys TRAI has finally released the suggestions By various operators on MNP(number Portability)...Post this regime....What will be ur Stand?and Why? Do give ur valuable Suggestions and Answers! Bharti(Airtel) Tata Teleservices MTNL Reliance InfocoMm

I dont know well guys But Yesterday My MAMAJI frm Ludhiana called me and had asked whether RIM broadband is Good or not or which 1 to go for..RIM broadband rates are quite competetive...600pm for 1GB thru Router with OFC..... well do somebody hv more info abt that

but guys TATA had been fined a MAJOR 450 Cr. Rs. and d u think he is going to keep its mouth Shut...Nop noipe........lets c what happens when all CDMA companies meet in Courst to **** Barbad Sanchar Nigam Lootle........ Be it Reliance Be It Tata and be many other tooo..That B.S.N.LOOtle.......want Free Fokat Ka Paisa...

probably the first Email interface in Hindi ...aint it.......neway thats a Global Indian Introduction

ITS OFFICIAL NOW GoM to settle CDMA, GSM operators row IN ORDER to resolve the spectrum dispute between the CDMA and GSM mobile operators, the Planning Commission has recommended setting up a group of ministers (GoM). The GoM would suggest modalities to vacate spectrum from the defence and other government agencies. The spectrum thus released would be allocated to the telecom operators. Defence minister, Communications minister, and finance minister are expected to be members of the GoM. Defence forces occupy a significant part of the spectrum. Armed forced use old technology equipment in some segments. These equipment are not spectrum efficient. Planning commission has pointed out that the defence forces may have to change the old equipment deployed so that they can release the required spectrum. The proposed group of ministers would estimate the investment required for this purpose.”The basic requirement from this group will have to be to make necessary funds available to the ministry of defence in particular for replacement of analogue/old equipment with more spectrally efficient equipment. Besides, to ensure that the time taken for procurement of defence equipment is curtailed drastically and the entire project is completed in a time bound manner, i.e., by March 2007,” says the planning commission. Planning commission has pointed out that spectrum is the scarcest of resources. Available spectrum has already been utilised in major urban centres with a result that spectrum is tending to be a major constraint in maintaining the high growth rate of cellular mobile services in the urban areas. “The spectrum availability needs to be adequately increased by both more efficient utilisation by the existing operators and services and by release of spare spectrum by modernisation and upgradation of equipment,” notes the planning commission. Department of telecommunications (DoT) is currently formulating the spectrum policy. Both CDMA and GSM operators are at loggerhead over the allocation of spectrum. GSM operators claim that CDMA technology is spectrum efficient. Therefore, CDMA operators require less spectrum to cater to the same number of subscribers. GSM operators have pleaded with the government that they should be allocated more spectrum. but dec. isnt mentioned......does ne1 has more info do popst it