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Posts posted by KanagaDeepan

  1. If he doesn't use data, then even JioPhone plan 49 is good. U just need to buy a new JioPhone. You can add his number in your smartphones myjio app and do recharges and check details there. Queuing of recharges is much better than 35Rs per 28 days, imho.

    If jio is not an option, then go for BSNL. Rs319 gives unlimited calls for 90 days. Still better option is 1699 recharge for One year, which is almost the cost of JioPhone. I am using this in my BSNL number. Difference between 319 and 1699 is just 423Rs per year or Rs35 per month. But you get daily 2GB data (4.1GB now) and UL roaming in MTNL network in Mumbai Delhi as well.

    Sent from my Samsung C9 pro using Tapatalk

  2. On 02/05/2018 at 1:15 PM, commonman said:

    What is the battery drain with dual VoLTE

    I don't think the battery drain in DualVoLTE networks will be higher than 4G + 3G phones, unless otherwise the 4G coverage of one of the network su(ks... Constant switching from 4G to 3G/2G for voice calls will drain the battery more, imho...

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  3. On 4/27/2018 at 7:18 AM, Hejmady said:
    it seems Asus Zenfone Max Pro (M1) does support Dual 4G VoLTE as claimed!
    Note: Available on Review Unit received by Gogi Tech, nice if the retail unit ships with Dual 4G VoLTE!

    Yes. Asus has enabled that in one of the 3 updates, it has sent after phone launch. Further the updates have improved RAM management and speed of finger print scanning as well.

    VoLTE for Airtel and Vodafone are expected in coming updates as well...

    Sent from my Lenovo P2 using Tapatalk

  4. 11 hours ago, Hejmady said:

    Looking for a Dual 4G VoLTE supported  smartphone [simultaneous, not 4G-2G] for Airtel4G & Jio4G

    Does Asus Zenfone max Pro (1) - Ref. https://telecomtalk.info/asus-zenfone-max-pro-launched-specs-price/176065/ [Rs.10,999/-, a Flipkart exclusive & available from 03-May-2018] really meet my requirement as claimed?

    Gurus Pls. respond

    NO... Asus Zenfone max Pro (M1) {that's a mouth full of name} doesn't support simultaneous Dual-VoLTE till now, as told by some youtube reviewers. Only option is Honor View10... Luckily, View10 supports all VoLTE networks in India, incl vodafone.

  5. Getting 10GB addon is not at all an issue. I get it just after 10 minutes of doing plan recharge. Further 999 recharge gives 15GB and 399 or above recharges gives 10GB vouchers. Redeeming the same is also no issue. But it is unusable when u change phone and exhaust plan usage limit (like 1GB per day in old 399).


    I am using Jio SIM on my old Lenovo YogaTab 3 (8" screen without VoLTE) got from flipkart (don't get from Amazon as it has just 1GB Ram). Now better one is Alcatel pop 4 (10" tab without VoLTE) again from flipkart for under 11k.


    But don't forget that, when u are using jio number in mobile while doing a recharge, the free add-on will become unusable if you change the SIM to any other phone or tab. So better get a new SIM for the tab, imho...


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  6. 8 hours ago, LTE4G said:

    Cheers!! Jio is giving 10GB to all prime members valid for 28 days as 'add on' which expires on 27th March 2018.

    Check your MyJio app. 


    Do you know the catch in this offer??? NOT at all a big one for most of the people, but for me it is a deal-breaker.

    The FREE add-on can be used ONLY in the phone which was used during the plan recharge. For example, you are using xiaomi RN4 and do a Rs399 recharge and will get 10GB add-on for FREE. But in case you changed the phone to other say RN5, then the addon will NOT be used at all, even though it was redeemed earlier. I have experienced this in my 4G Tab, while recharge was done on C9 pro.

    As I said it is NOT a big deal for almost anyone. But for people who change phone often or that old phone got broken, they are in for bad luck. I have recharged for 2 years and obviously can't use th phone for that length of time. So it is NOT that useful in queing more plans in Jio.

  7. 3 hours ago, LTE4G said:

    You may disagree, but the fact is that by giving away dirt cheap offers they can easily surpass Airtel (number of subscribers) by the next year & as far as ARPU is concerned they are already well off (reporting profits) so there is no need to concentrate on improving it, at least at the moment - when they are looking for more subscribers. This can be addressed as "Killing the competition" but just think what was happening before the entry of Jio - all telecom operators were simply LOOTING. Now Jio has emerged as a "Robin Hood" and may be killing the competition, but who is benefited - We the users (remember 80%of Indian population is still poor). This is the reason why they are after masses and not merely after the bunch of high ARPU customers. I would like to say that when the things are beyond our control & we can't do anything about the present situation it is better to enjoy the cheap data till the "Looting Era" revives again if ever (although not expected).;)

    I am NOT saying other operators were NOT looting, before jio days. Yes, they have looted and will continue to do so, if they get the slightest chance, even now. No doubts in that. I do agree that, people are getting huge benefits as well. I am NOT against the benefits for mass. I wholeheartedly welcome this. But why they are NOT caring about high ARPU users???

    • Do you think, they got profit, just from Jio's operations ALONE and NOT from funds of RIL???
    • Do you think, they will get returns for the 2.5 Lakh Crores, (this amount is as big as budget of few small countries) by offering to masses only? No, they need to concentrate on high ARPU users as well.
    • I will be more happy, if they offered balanced services like, Rs49 Limited plan for feature phone users and Bulk benefits for high ARPU users.

    I am NOT losing anything, if Idea or Airtel goes to loss (they already are. Idea for 1 year & Airtel from last qtr for India operations). But lack of competition is a HUGE loss for customers. With NO competition, there will be NO need to ensure quality services. Already CC of Jio is the worst. Guess, the situation, when there is NO or little competition? It is much worse than Rs296/GB, imho.

    Reg "Revival of Looting Era" -- I don't think it will be as severe as AVoId days of Rs296 per GB for sure. At the max, it can go to Rs303 -- 1GB per day for 28 days. When saying LOSS to customers, it is NOT just about money -- It is loss of quality -- It is the loss of Choice -- It is the loss of peace of mind. With NO competition, your money is valueless. That is the real loss.

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  8. 9 hours ago, LTE4G said:

    I think I know "What Jio wants?" - Number 1 position in India (Dominate Indian telecom). So Jio can go to any extent to achieve it.;)

    Sorry, I dis-agree with this point. If they are really into number one position, they must be giving special offers for high ARPU users as well as Postpaid customers (much stickier customers). But their only motto is to KILL THE COMPETITION and nothing else.

  9. I can't understand Jio's strategy. They don't give a damn about higher-end plans and postpaid connections. Rs999 recharge still gives 60GB for 90 days (with free 15GB topup --depending on phone and Rs50x8 cashback) ONLY. The customers who have recharged with that plan are giving Rs333 per month, comparing Rs133 per month in case of Rs399 plan users. But Rs399 plan gives 1.5GB/ day for 84 days + Rs50x8 cashback vouchers + 10GB topup free.

    Now the Rs101 top-up automatically uses our existing Rs50 cashback voucher. So it is Rs51 for 6GB, as well. With such top-up facility, now there is simply NO NEED to go for Rs999 or above plans at all. Just do Rs399 recharge and use Rs51 (Rs101-Rs50 CB) top-up for 6GB -- when you need bulk data and you are good to go.

    Since Jio is NOT AT ALL thinking about the Rs333 ARPU users, now it is PROVED (although not surprising) that all Jio wants is to KILL competition and nothing else...

  10. On 1/26/2018 at 8:40 PM, pasumark said:

    Lets look this in a positive angle.

    Amazon, Ola, UBER, Flikart ....... Do you think are all these companies making profit? Surely not now. They are funded by people who are having simple money in plenty (Like Soft bank from Japan)

    And we are getting good quality service from all the above companies. Right?

    So even if the prices are damn cheap and not at all viable, we will be getting quality. 

    Airtel and JIO will try to become No.1 at all costs. JIO has very very deep pockets. Airtel will also be funded by so many investors from around the world. So both will offer down to earth prices and they will also try to maintain the quality. The player who offers very low prices + quality - Will be future No.1. 

    After becoming No.1 also they will not increase the prices. Because if they increase the prices, another new player will enter. This business model will work on volumes. Everybody will have 1 or 2 phones (Whether they need it or not). So the No.1 company will be making profits regularly . Example of this is alibaba.com. They have become No.1 and still offering rock bottom prices. Due to their volume they are able to do this.

    So VOLUME VOLUME VOLUME is the key and to attain this these companies will do anything. 

    So we can enjoy (But ultimately we will pay the same amount, since we will now give phone even for our office boy :unexp:)


    The difference is, with HEALTHY competition, the quality of service increases. But in cut-throat DEADLY competition, only PRICE gets cheaper and quality degrades like anything. No network in India is good in all places, both for voice calls and data. Right now, it changes from street to street as well.

    In TN, Airtel's DC-HSPA rocks. But their 4G speed sux and in MP+CG, 4G rocks, 3G crawls. Voice quality of 2G sux in all circles, thanks to unlimited calls.

    Wrt BSNL, speed is good in two streets per city. If we are living in rest of the 990+ streets, then we are out of luck. Voice calls are horrible even in 3G, again thanks to unlimited calls.

    Jio has good speeds in MP, TN. But it crawls in Mah & AP. if you have 4G+ phone (with LTE - A support), then you are blessed, else cursed. Calls between Jio numbers are simply awesome, but between Jio and other networks calls are awful.

    It is NOT like, operators have not expanded their network coverage. They have (especially Jio and Airtel) improved coverage great (thanks again to competition). But the data speed and voice clarity is NOT upto the mark, due to too much race to cheap tariff.

  11. This is looking more like crushing the competition, than republic day gift for my eyes. Healthy competition is good for customers, but that is not the case now. Jio's plans are like dragging competitors to hell loss.

    Even now, I can't understand why Airtel is still triggering Jio by matching their plans. May be their idea is to kill idea? Idea CEO is almost crying for mercy showing white flag.

    One thing is for sure, expecting quality services during this blood bath is a crime now.

  12. Yes... Jio is making money in books only for now, I guess.. Rs154 ARPU from 16 crore customers?? I really doubt that...

    Or one reason, I can guess is the QUEUED recharges has brought the revenue to Jio. For eg: I have done recharges for 2 years and hence Jio has got few thousand rupees in last quarter from me. But the problem is "I will NOT recharge for 2 years", but Jio has to serve me for 2 years without getting new revenue from me. From comments around web, I can see that so many people have done advanced recharges and hence good revenue for Jio last qtr. But in coming years, we have to wait and see.

    The problem with such blood bath competition is, NO NETWORK will be in usable condition, till the end of tariff war in most places.

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  13. 14 hours ago, vicky2089 said:

     What does airtel want to prove here. They have a pathetic 4g coverage and giving such offers. For eg if your 3g data pack has expired & u r left only with 4g only data , and u move to non 4g area u will be charged for using their 3g network :(


    Not only that. If you are browsing using 4G data and when an incoming call arrives, the network will switch to 3G and data will obviously used on 3G network as well and eats your main balance.

    This problem is somewhat solved with airtel VoLTE. But it's available in few streets of very few circles. To add insult to the injury, very very few phones support their VoLTE and that too is a hit or miss affair.