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    I wonder why some people are still complaining regarding Jio' pricing & also frowning against the withdrawal of unlimited night (2 AM - 5 AM). Those who have recharged with ₹499/- & above got 100GB Flat for 90 days & those stuck with ₹303/- Summer Surprise 1GB/day can always recharge with Booster-pack if needed. I think they are the one who never complained while 1GB 3G data used to cost ₹251/- for 28 days. How can we be so GREEDY? Why can't we be rational?
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    Yes. In 2003, MDA brought mobile to the reach of commonman through RIM. In just 3 months call rates fell from Rs.10/min to Re.1/min. 14 years later he did the same for data. I also use Jio mainly for data, with RCom 4G (the new avatar of RIM) for voice. But sometimes even RCom plays truant.
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    I agree that Economic data with decent speed > High speed network. But there is still one more thing, that is much much more important. That is RELIABILITY. Reliability >> Economy > SPEED. In my case, speed of Jio is much greater than Airtel (both 3G as well as 4G). Plus Jio is much economical OBVIOUSLY, comparing Airtel. I always use JIO for Prime Videos, YouTube, Tubemate, etc. I have 3 Jio numbers (incl one JioFi2 pocket router connection) each with Prime Rs999 done already and hence with SuSu offer -- 100GB for 3 months with NO daily FUP. But for simple, yet important jobs like, tatkal train ticket booking, net banking, even e-commerce (for cc transactions), I will use Airtel (even its 3G DC-HSPA+ is much reliable). Just few days back, I was applying for passport for my relative online, using JioFi2. The net disconnects frequently and I got irritated, that I have to use my Airtel's 3G connection (with hotspot) to get the job done without any issues -- duration around 20 to 25 minutes. I got calls in between as well. Jio is NOT 100% reliable. At first glance, everything looks great, right?? Great 23+ Mbps DL speed, 6+Mbps UL speed, just 50+ milli-second ping. Wonderful. But Just take note of two more things there, JITTER and SINR. Here Jitter is 150% of PING, WTF? For a data network with just 50ms ping, jitter is expected to hover in single digit of milli-sec only (worst case <20ms). Jitter shows abrupt change of latency (Not exactly, but something like that). Thank God, there is at least NO packet loss. The second point is BAD SINR -- Signal to Noise Ratio. In Airtel, I have seen SINR @ 26dbm max and worse case it is >10 dbm. In Jio, I have seen even neg SINR values. This shows, still a hell lot of optimization needs to be done on their towers / equipments. The reason I think is THE FREELOADERS. Even now, I know so many people who has NOT even done Rs99 prime recharge, enjoying 4G data (MyJio shows valid till 21 July -- WTF???) without any issues. Jio is THE modern day RobinHood of wireless data, who get money from paid customers and serve the FREELOADERS. I am very very thankful to Jio, as they are the real reasons, we are getting affordable data tariffs. I used to pay 2000+ Rs every month for my single number to Airtel -- all for 8GB data + 10,000 minutes of free calls incl roaming + CUG. But right now I am just paying them Rs649, but getting UnLimited calls + 19GB data per month. I am almost getting thrice the benefits for one-third of the price now, all thanks to Jio for bringing the much needed competition in Telecom sector. But wireless networks have limitations, (thanks to Physics) and by keeping on serving the FREE users will really hurt the experience for paid and loyal customers. I have even heard murmur of few users who have done Rs99+Rs303 recharge and they may NOT recharge after August, if freeloaders get free service till July (as per their myJio app). Jio must NOT forget that for MOST of their PAID customers, Jio is still SECONDARY sim only.
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    so further 3 million users left RCOM in March 17 Bringing total down to 84 Million (VLR 81% Feb) Aircel subscriber March 17 at 90 Million (VLR 61% Feb) Assuming merger formality to be completed in few months (Total Subscriber around 170 Million, 122 Million as per VLR) Combined entity still distance 4th(or may be 5th by the time merger gets completed), With Huge debt and no key selling point(Probably except for AIRCEL strong n/w down south), combined entity is going to closed/sold soon Jio is a threat to everyone. Teleco's need to make profit to stay in the game. Teleco's need high ARPU customer. Customer having ARPU of less than 50 is in true sense liability (loss making customer). Having 100 Million voice customer with ARPU of 50 means monthly revenue of 500 Crore. yearly revenue 6000 Crore.. Make 200 million of such customer yearly revenue is just 12000Cr..Pan India Telco cant survive with such low revenue. So if someone is saying that RCOM/AIRCEL combo will survive with just 2G services....they are completely wrong.
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    ^^^ Speed test shows good speeds but reality is so very different whenever I call my brother via facetime its poor connection or reconnection every few minutes and websites takes ages to load many a times webpages show page cannot be found then auto refresh to open such is jio speed and reliability. I do agree on your point thanks to Jio entry and erstwhile RIM entry mobile industry has been revolutionized free incoming back then cheaper data now. Jio is working on quantity concept and ignoring quality aspect.If this continues people who came to Jio for better services may soon leave jio. All said and done one thing for which Jio must be credited for is their infra given the amount of load it takes with so many free loaders it is still running and going good I am unsure if AVoId group can individually take this load individually and sustain. Fingers crossed and hope Jio quickly focuses on quality aspect ASAP
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    I totally agree with you. This "Reliability" is the major reason behind further extension in form of 3 months "Summer Surprise" or Paid "Dhan Dhana Dhan" offers. Jio still need time. I have been using Jio as my main data connection & till now twice I have experienced full network outage for few hours - once in Mumbai and once in Haridwar. There was also some severe speed issues during the free period of welcome offer & Happy New Year Offer, when Jio network was crawling. I have also experienced similar outage issues to the extent of 24 hours in Vodafone, MTNL, Reliance 3G & CDMA networks a few times before the advent of Jio. Yes Jio's roaming coverage was great with signal present everywhere while traveling from Mumbai to Delhi and up to Haridwar. YES! Jio is NOT 100% reliable at present. My Primary number is still Vodafone & Secondary number is Reliance 4G (Upgraded CDMA 93 series). I use Jio mainly for Data and personal outgoing calls only. This is the biggest contribution by Jio - for bringing the Internet (affordability) within the reach of a common man. So whether someone is using Jio or not is still benefited by Jio.
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    That is why I don't have much hope on ChoRCom. ChoRCom 2G's voice call quality is very very horrible, that even the pathetic BSNL's 2G voice calls are much better. Reg coverage, ChoRCom's 2G GSM was a very very BAD joke. I agree that Jio is NOT a threat to ChoRCom's 2G voice business. They are already giving dirt cheap 2G voice calls for years. But NOW they are NOT alone. Even BSNL, Airtel, Vodafone and Idea have started giving better voice plans (NOT DATA) to their 2G / 3G users. They have better coverage and great voice call clarity as well. Among Telcos, Whoever may be the loser, at last customers are going to be the winners.
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    Yes ! I still have two Rcom 4G connections which are latching to Aircel towers from quite some time and network has improved drastically as compared to rcom. So users who use mobile for telephony (voice communication) only & are not heavy users will never shell ₹149/- for unlimited voice for 28 days as they can sustain outgoing connectivity for more than two - three months by way of paid voice calls using ₹149 talk time (full talk time voucher) or even top up with so called "chota recharge" ₹10/- etc. to keep outgoing enabled. Basically Jio is eyeing Data segment only - as for voice user, 4G or 2G doesn't make any difference as long as connectivity and coverage is good.
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    I agree that market has been dominant by 2G users... now lets see the facts by END of 2015 - 3 Million 4G user Reports says 2017 End around 50 Million 4G users, fact is Mid 2017 Jio itself have 100 Million 4G users, plus AVOID numbers with introduction of feature 4G phones (which Jio is expected to launch). 4G base is expected to grow exponentially (it may be almost double of what article predicts by 2020) Now coming to Voice users....it is past....with Voice becoming free(mature market already have free voice), who will stick to Voice only. next upgrade will be either to feature phones or smart phones. Many countries are now closing 2G...(Singapore already closed, Australia - largest telco have closed others have announced by Sep 2017). Even indian Telcos will have to close 2G at some point so as to utilize spectrum in efficient way. Telco wants profit. 2G only is not profitable with ARPU on the lowest side. In terms of Coverage/Speed/Quantity ...AVOID is far better than RCOM/AIRCEL. Not to mention about customer services which is almost non existence for RCOM Plus not to forget the low quality of users on RCOM/AIRCEL, huge debt, reducing subscriber, increasing losses, No funds for expansion, 800Mhz of RCOM near its expiry. I dont see RCOM/AIRCEL surviving in this market Just to give u some more inside RCOM had 100 Million customer on Dec15, with VLR around 91%..Close to 91 Million active users as of Dec16 RCOM is having 86Million with VLR around 85%...close to 73 Million active users(may have further reduced in Jan-Dec due to onslaught from Jio/Matching offers from AVOID) Stock price of RCOM hovering around 33 today. which is near to its all time low(Gives u a fair bit of idea that even experts are not buying RCOM story) RCOM most profitable users were EVDO Data card users..(they are gone now), User looking for Data have moved to Jio, for 2G only service why should one stick to RCOM?? For user with low usage 20-60Rs default rates are same across all Telco's. No international roaming on prepaid, frequent unwanted deductions, messy vouchers(advertise something but actual benefits does not match). Check any online forum you will see people calling CHORCOM...